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Lost; Season 5
JediBendu:
--- Quote from: Fluxuation on 18 Feb 2009, 12:47 ---I have to respectfully disagree with you.. Jughead was a great episode, but last week's ep was probably one of the best non-season finale episode.
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No offense or anything since you went about saying that nicely. But if you think that episode was one of the best of the series then you either have really bad taste or your enthusiasm for the mythology of the show outweighs your enthusiasm for good television. Probably both.
mietteissass:
Ohh now I want to know what you thought ben was up to. And I agree with Sun and Whats her face, I would not bring the kids back to the island either. Not at first, not until I know what was going to happen there. I am curious what she did with Aaron, but Sun left the girl with her mother. She is safe. For now.
The episode was amazing and I love that Frank was there. I laughed hard when he said "We aren't going to Guam are we?" He knew. I thought it was interesting that this time, Syid is the one with a Marshall. And the new guy, I don't know what he has to do with it, but I can't wait to know.
and Why was Ben covered in blood. Did he kill Penny like he said he would?
0bsessions:
--- Quote from: JediBendu on 19 Feb 2009, 08:46 ---No offense or anything since you went about saying that nicely. But if you think that episode was one of the best of the series then you either have really bad taste or your enthusiasm for the mythology of the show outweighs your enthusiasm for good television. Probably both.
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Or option three, which is the correct one: opinions are subjective and you are really overstepping your bounds on this. Hell, personally, I found Jughead to be the weakest episodes of the season, so far. That doesn't make my tastes bad or my passion for the show any less, it just means my opinion differs from yours.
And mietteissass, in terms of the blood, that's exactly what I think. At least, that he tried to. Look at the scenario:
He assured Whidmore he was going to kill Penny. He knew Desmond was in town from meeting him and would easily have been able to presume Penny was there as well as a result. The big thing, though? When he calls Jack, the blood is clearly fresh, probably not all his and he's on a dock. Considering Penny lives on a boat now, it's the logical conclusion. I'm not sure one way or the other whether he succeeded, but my guess is he at least tried to kill Penny and ran afoul of Desmond. My best guess is that he did not succeed and Desmond will follow Ben to the island to make sure he never tries again.
In terms of the other people on the plane, I found some VERY interesting theories on that that I find myself clinging to. Eloise told Jack, in no uncertain terms, they had to recreate the crash as closely as possible.
First and obviously, Locke is dead, as Christian was.
Ben is almost late for the plane, as Hurley was; he also is out of his seat when the turbulence begins, as Charlie was.
Sayid is escorted onto the plane, in handcuffs, by a U.S. Marshall, as Kate was.
Sun is holding her husband's wedding band, as Rose was.
Jack is reading a letter, as Sawyer was.
Hurley is reading a comic book, as he was on 815; he brings a guitar aboard, as Charlie did.
Kate is the only one who does not obviously emulate an aspect of flight 815. Popular theory is that she may have gotten pregnant with Jack's child during the prior night's rendezvous, thus emulating Claire.
JediBendu:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 19 Feb 2009, 12:19 ---Or option three, which is the correct one: opinions are subjective and you are really overstepping your bounds on this. Hell, personally, I found Jughead to be the weakest episodes of the season, so far. That doesn't make my tastes bad or my passion for the show any less, it just means my opinion differs from yours.
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I think it goes without saying that it's my personal opinion. I don't think anyone actually misunderstands this point, I certainly don't, I just don't go around putting disclaimers on every opinion I put forth. And I never said their passion for the show was less. As a matter of fact I think it takes considerable passion for the show to enjoy that episode. Which in my opinion was weak. It is also, in my opinion, very silly to call it one of the best episodes of the series. To me it's indicative of a fascination with the mythology and mysteries and the answers to those mysteries more than a love of the actual experience of watching the shows. Which is not a bad thing if that's how you enjoy the show.
I don't think it's terribly subjective to say that "This Place Is Death" was kind of an oddball in Lost. It basically became a different episode halfway through and it seemed to have much less focus than the average Lost episode. That on its own makes it strange to call it one of the best episodes of the series simply because it's kind of a black sheep episode while not raising the bar in any areas like the really good non-standard episodes do ("The Constant's" unique treatment of time travel and heightened emotional resonance, for example.)
Less objectively I would say that Charlotte, who was supposed to be a main character that people cared about seeing die, was killed sloppily and it was just the worst death scene I've seen on Lost so far, especially in light of highly dramatic deaths on the show like Shannon or Libby. Who, coincidentally, also had the men who loved them with them at their time of death.
For me it's down there below "Expose"
0bsessions:
How you can call into question anyone's tastes while, in the same breath, claiming anything is worse than Expose was, is beyond rational thought.
In terms of Charlotte's death: sometimes, death just happens. There's not always drama and intrigue involved. Take Danielle, a character who's been with the show since nearly the beginning. She died with no fanfare, suddenly and without buildup or really much of any followup. A death can hit hard without being a huge drama.
Beyond that, how was Charlotte's death any less dramatic than Shannon's? Shannon was just shot, out of nowhere, no buildup whatsoever. Charlotte's death has been hinted at for weeks, much as Charlie's was.
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