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RovingSoul:
Right. So I haven't read this entire thing, but I registered just to respond to it.

1. Guinevere is pretty much just as well known as Helen. I personally know less about her, cause I'm into the Greek stuff. However, I've known about Authur and his Knights, and Lancelot and Guinevere and the menage a trois since I was about 2. I found out about Helen when I was in High School.

2. The couple of posts I read did not seem to know anything about the whole Helen situation. It very complicated, but I'll give the nutshell version. Also, there are going to be people who disagree with what I have learned about the events that transpired, as they are in fact dealing with Gods. So nobody actually knows what happened. Ok, there was a wedding, and all of the Gods were invited, except for Discord (or Strife, or something like that) because why would you want Discord at a wedding. So, she was pissed, and went and fetched a golden apple. Then she brought the golden apple, and threw it into the crowd, and said that the fairest shall have it. Three Goddess' tried to claim it, Athena, Hera, and Aphrodite. So, to decide who whould get the Apple, they brought in Paris, who was an exceptionally handsome sheep herder, and incidentally, a long lost son of Priam (I believe he was lost on purpose, cause there was a prophecy of him being the doom of Troy, or some such.) The three Goddess' all offered him things to entice him to choose them. Athena offered wisdom and prowess in battle, and Hera offered him a Kingdom. However, he was already a fairly adequate fighter, and a Prince of Troy, so compared with Aphrodite's offer, those were rather superfolous. Aphrodite offered him the most beautiful woman in the world (never mind that she was already married to Menelaus). And he took that offer. And Helen was A) Abducted, or B) Went willingly. And Menelaus was able to gather so many supporters to go after her, because Helen's father (with Odyesseus' help) had made all the suitors promise to defend the chosen husband. And, lol, after the huge war, Helen want back to Sparta, and by some accounts, had a relatively long life with Menelaus.

3. Whatever jokes should have been made, they are in fact just jokes, which are supposed to be spur of the moment, and it is up to Jeph as to what jokes are made, and IT'S A FREAKING COMIC PEOPLE!!!

viatriphop:

--- Quote from: RovingSoul on 24 Jan 2009, 23:59 ---Right. So I haven't read this entire thing, but I registered just to respond to it.

1. Guinevere is pretty much just as well known as Helen. I personally know less about her, cause I'm into the Greek stuff. However, I've known about Authur and his Knights, and Lancelot and Guinevere and the menage a trois since I was about 2. I found out about Helen when I was in High School.

2. The couple of posts I read did not seem to know anything about the whole Helen situation. It very complicated, but I'll give the nutshell version. Also, there are going to be people who disagree with what I have learned about the events that transpired, as they are in fact dealing with Gods. So nobody actually knows what happened. Ok, there was a wedding, and all of the Gods were invited, except for Discord (or Strife, or something like that) because why would you want Discord at a wedding. So, she was pissed, and went and fetched a golden apple. Then she brought the golden apple, and threw it into the crowd, and said that the fairest shall have it. Three Goddess' tried to claim it, Athena, Hera, and Aphrodite. So, to decide who whould get the Apple, they brought in Paris, who was an exceptionally handsome sheep herder, and incidentally, a long lost son of Priam (I believe he was lost on purpose, cause there was a prophecy of him being the doom of Troy, or some such.) The three Goddess' all offered him things to entice him to choose them. Athena offered wisdom and prowess in battle, and Hera offered him a Kingdom. However, he was already a fairly adequate fighter, and a Prince of Troy, so compared with Aphrodite's offer, those were rather superfolous. Aphrodite offered him the most beautiful woman in the world (never mind that she was already married to Menelaus). And he took that offer. And Helen was A) Abducted, or B) Went willingly. And Menelaus was able to gather so many supporters to go after her, because Helen's father (with Odyesseus' help) had made all the suitors promise to defend the chosen husband. And, lol, after the huge war, Helen want back to Sparta, and by some accounts, had a relatively long life with Menelaus.

3. Whatever jokes should have been made, they are in fact just jokes, which are supposed to be spur of the moment, and it is up to Jeph as to what jokes are made, and IT'S A FREAKING COMIC PEOPLE!!!

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Amen sista!
People take this shit too seriously.

KeepACoolin:

--- Quote from: JonSnow on 17 Jan 2009, 02:32 ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Skawronska on 16 Jan 2009, 20:05 ---From Wikipedia:

--- Quote ---The war originated from a quarrel between the goddesses Athena, Hera and Aphrodite, after Eris, the goddess of strife and discord, gave them a golden apple, sometimes known as the apple of Discord, marked "for the fairest". Zeus sent the goddesses to Paris, who judged that Aphrodite, as the "fairest", should receive the apple. In exchange, Aphrodite made Helen, the most beautiful of all women, fall in love with Paris, who took her to Troy. Agamemnon, king of Mycenae and the brother of Helen's husband Menelaus, led an expedition of Achaean troops to Troy and besieged the city for ten years. After the deaths of many heroes, including the Achaeans Achilles and Ajax, and the Trojans Hector and Paris, the city fell to the ruse of the Trojan Horse.

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Helen of Troy:  "The Face that could launch a Thousand Ships."

There, now you're up to speed.

S

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Well then wikipedia is wrong lol... if you read the original accounts by homeros you'll see that a sheepherder on the flanks of the Greek Mountainrange actually decided that Helen was the fairest, and gave her the golden apple. Hence Hera, who would be damned if she'd lose to a mortal made Helen madly run away to Troy. (There is no mention of an actual love between Helen and the sheppard, the love comes from the overly modernised movie, where love HAD to be the driving force... Athena, who in her wisdom was a fair loser decided to support the Greeks who wanted to get Helen back, (not sure about aphrodite, as a godess she only really cared about herself and toying with human emotions) Hera supported the Trojans.

ps the war of Troy is the Prequel to the Oddysea (for those who want more literature of the like)

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That shepherd was Paris.  Due to a prophecy that stated that their second son would ruin them, Priam and his wife sent Paris to live with shepherds while he was a baby (a la Oedipus), and he later found out who he was and came back to live with them.  Wikipedia is NEVER wrong, b.

Sporky:
This thread is an example of why Internet forums are stupid.

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