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Just Watchmen. Just the Comic.
Surgoshan:
The story of the black freighter provides a commentary and/or internal monologue for the main story. A man alone, striving toward damnation, thinking it's salvation; that's Veidt's journey.
sandysmilinstrange:
I was enjoying the Black Freighter at first, but as the story picked up steam it became an annoying distraction for me, so all commentary was lost on me.
I can clearly remember the first time I read this. When I got to Veidt's line "Do it? Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago" I broke out in goosebumps.
The part where the newspaper vendor goes and tries to shield that kid always made me get misty-eyed.
It's amazing how your loyalties shift in different times in your life. There have been times when I think that Rorshach is the hero, right is always right and wrong is always wrong. Then a few years later I'll go back and read and think Veidt is right and the ends eventually justify the means.
And every time I read it I feel sorrier and sorrier for Dr. Manhattan.
Scandanavian War Machine:
--- Quote from: sandysmilinstrange on 23 Jan 2009, 06:52 ---When I got to Veidt's line "Do it? Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago" I broke out in goosebumps.
--- End quote ---
same here. fucking brilliant.
RE: The Black Freighter.
i'm not sure how i feel about that whole thing. at times, it was kind of annoying and made it hard to follow the other dialogue that was happening at the same time; but on the other hand it did seem to be appropriate, content-wise, to the main story. my only real complaint about it was that it was a tad too long, and way too predictable. it wasn't exciting to read because i always knew what was going to happen.
SirJuggles:
Well they make a point of telling you how it ends in that one chapter-bookend that's an excerpt from a piece on comics. So it's not to meant to be mysterious. As soon as I read Surgoshan's comment I realized he's right.
RedLion:
The most effective (and affecting) thing about Watchmen is that its characters are all highly damaged and therefore readers are able to relate to them. It's what makes it different from regular comic books and even other graphic novels of similar qualities--their heroes are beyond human. Even heroes without powers like Batman are beyond the realm of what is generally humanly physically possible. In Watchmen, on the other hand, only Jon is actually a superhero. And even he is somewhat relatable to humanity.
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