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Wait, what?
Mr. Skawronska:
As I posted in the other thread, I really, honestly think that Dora is having a bit of cruel, evil fun with Marten because she can.
She's just doing it so convincingly, everyone is fooled.
Including many of YOU.
S
PlatonicPimp:
So here's what I think is going on here, based on my experience in a "slightly ajar" relationship with a bisexual woman.
Dora has had 2 reactions to a similar situation recently involving her man. Situation one, Marten sees boob on Hannelore, she brushes it off. Situation 2, girl at college asks him out, she freaks.
First critical difference, is a body image thing. Hannelore is a stick, and is blonde. College girl is shorter, curvier, and a brunette. Now that she's letting her blond hair show, Hannelore and Dora can fit a similar body description. College girl and Faye, on the other hand... My experience has been that it is less threatening when the person your significant other is interacting with resembles you than when they don't. In my case saying a brunette was cute would meet with approval, but blondes would get me the "Do you want to date other people" guilt trip.
Second critical difference, and this is a wild guess on my part, but would your partner go for the other person? This is really only a question in the case of a bisexual partner. If Dora wants to check out the third party, she's more likely to give Marten a pass for doing so himself. However, if she doesn't find the third party attractive, she'll give him hell over it. Does Dora harbor some sort of attraction to Hannelore that perhaps colors her responce? I'm not in a position to go thorugh the archives right now but I beleive she's made innuendo in her direction before.
Third critical difference, and this is the big one, is control. A third party is unthreatening not by their presence, but by the disruption of perceived control. In situation one, Nothing threatening happened because: A: Marten did not intentionally oogle Hanners, B: Marten was so pathetically sorry about it that it made Dora feel in control of him, and C: Dora put Hanners in her place long ago vis-a-vis Marten. In situation 2 there was no control for Dora. A girl she didn't even know approached Marten in an environment that she had no presence in and Marten could have done whatever he wanted. And even the fact that he turned her down in a self assured manner is fearful because it means he's in this relationship of his own volition, and that could change. Dora is a control freak, we all know this. This is why she's allowed to make impulsive decisions but noone else in her life is. Her reactions are simple: In a situation she's in control of, she's all flirtatiously liberated, in situations she's not in control of, she's screaming jealous.
Jack Faros:
Wow...I honestly feel that you guys are over analyzing this situation waaaaaaaaay too much. Given, Jeph is a really great writer, but I don't think he's that great. I can't imagine that he put as much intricate thought into all of this as a couple of you think he did.
For my own part, I've felt that Jeph has been steadily building up to a major event in the comic's story over the past few months, and that it will have something to do with the relationship between Marten and Dora. In the long run, I hope that it turns out that they break up. It would open up so many new story lines if they do, and even open up new possibilities for ones already in place.
For instance, if they did break up, what happens to Faye? If she sides with Dora, she may end up having to move out of the apartment she's sharing with Marten. But if she sides with Marten, she could lose her job, and her relationship with Sven might even suffer.
And what of Marten? He'd be single again. How would that work? Maybe Hanners (though it's unlikely) will try and capture him on the rebound. She's the only female regular who hasn't had some kind of romantic tension with him yet, and lord knows they've been spend alot of time together away from Faye and Dora and the other regular cast members. (Before anyone says anything, I don't consider Raven or Penny to be "regulars." We only see them every once in a while, and they hardly ever play any major significance to the story.) Marten's always been nothing but understanding of her many quarks, and has even tried to shield her from things that would clearly freak her out. She's even been able to overcome her OCD a couple of times, something that she would probably never have done before meeting Marten in that bathroom. Maybe all that will be enough to let her atleast try approaching him. Or they could both get really drunk and end up shagging. That could do it to. (Probably send her into shock though.)
Or hey, maybe Jeff could go a whole other direction. Maybe Marten and Dora get engaged? Or maybe Dora's pregnant, and that's what's causing all these sudden mood swings? Who knows.
PizzaSHARK:
Wait, there's a plot? I thought it was just for shits and giggles.
MC:
--- Quote from: electricdude on 23 Jan 2009, 00:41 ---So wasn't it just a bit ago that Dora was laughing about Marten freaking out over seeing Hanner's boob? She said that she didn't need to worry about him cheating because he was so guilty over it. And now she's getting all uptight that he was asked out by a girl (and clearly turned her down)? Look, I've been hit on before while in a relationship. It happens- people don't know. As long as I say I'm taken/not interested, no harm, no foul, right? It's also not the first thing I'd tell my partner later. It's not like I'm hiding anything- just doesn't seem important. So why is she getting jealous over nothing? I've never really liked Dora, and I'm secretly hoping that her insecurities cause them to split up. Just the comics lately have seemed contradictory. I guess... real life can be that way too.
(Dang look at how long I spent analyzing/ranting about a comic. I need to get out more.)
Yeah that just was bothering me...
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Dora is a bit of a control freak. Frankly a girl like that would scare me. She seems just a little bit OVEr protective of Marten and that is NEVER good. Ladies take note of Dora and DON'T DO THIS! Unless you wanna scare off every guy you have ever been intrested in.
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