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Dire warnings of the apocalypse mistaken for prank
Nodaisho:
I'm somewhat confused about which ones we are talking about here. The Shaolin Spade is the one there was a picture of, are you saying that that one is cutty and was designed as a weapon? The garden variety spade is the one you put as your secondary? The entrenching tool like I am talking about is like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrenching_tool closer to the soviet one, but folding (including an angle that allows it to be used as a pick). They were used as weapons in trench warfare, like you would use a knife or a bayonet. Compact, which is useful for a backup weapon, as it allows it to be used very close in, and is easier to tote around.
Like I have said, I wouldn't want to use a sharp object if I was going for headshots. I would be worried about getting it stuck, since I'm not well-trained in using the weapon. That's why I would use the hatchet with the blade cover still on, if I could be sure it wouldn't damage the blade. You bash a zed hard enough in the head, and the brain gets damaged, and they shut down. Not as flashy as lobotomizing them, but effective.
Josefbugman:
Did you not see the fact that it has a head like an axe? That says "cutty" to me.
I am saying as a secondary as you know, I don't have a martial arts class nearby and have no desire for actual weaponry that I would probably use a normal spade. You are using one of those things? Are you insane! These things have the reach of a normal human being and are all around you. I am sorry but I want to keep as far away from the gnashing teeth and rending claws of the unliving by having something that I can use from a long way away.
Or it doesn't go down and you have to keep moving and suddenly you are missing an important part of your neck? Personally I would not go for an entrenching tool or the spade because, if I am brutally honest there is never going to be a zombie outbreak. Its far more reasonable to prepare for a man made apocalypse than one foisted on us by fiction.
Patrick:
Get me a FAMAS rifle. Standard ammunition size, good accuracy, and it's a bullpup configuration, so you've got a lot more control over aim because you are forced to use ironsights.
I would still use a Glock handgun (from what I hear, they almost work BETTER with sand and shit in them, hah), but I would also carry around a machete, a hatchet, and one of those hooligan tool things. Also, my beloved short KA-BAR (thank god I already own one) Can never have too many cutting tools. Also, a sharpening kit. Flint and steel would be a good idea. And I'll be in Alaska during the whole thing, so a tent, bedroll, and canteen would be pretty much all I'd need. Warm clothing, too. Only one spare set, preferably with lots of polar fleece so that it stays warm even when wet. And the backpack used to carry it all would have to be waterproof. No food. Too heavy, and Alaskan wildlife
Also, carry around a bottle of bleach with you. A good way to disinfect your tools and other equipment after using it to kill zombies. That way, you can use it for hunting or cooking.
Candle:
i think if a zombie apocalypse broke out i would just give chaos theory a high five and submit. i can't deal with that shit; flesh eating dead folks is where i draw the line...
i would go out with a bang though, drunken medieval undead slaying- fuuuuck yeaaaaaaaah
Nodaisho:
--- Quote from: Josefbugman on 01 Feb 2009, 11:33 ---Did you not see the fact that it has a head like an axe? That says "cutty" to me.
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This thing http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Monk-Spade.jpg? I don't see an axe head, and I can't see the edge, so I don't know if it's sharp. You could sharpen it, sure, but if someone actually used it for shoveling, you wouldn't want to, since you would have to re-sharpen pretty often, what with it being worn down by the rocks.
--- Quote ---You are using one of those things? Are you insane! These things have the reach of a normal human being and are all around you. I am sorry but I want to keep as far away from the gnashing teeth and rending claws of the unliving by having something that I can use from a long way away.
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Yes, I want something that I can use from a long way away. You know what that is? A gun. My backup weapon? Another gun. If they are all around you, you won't be able to hold them all off with a melee weapon. You have to keep moving while engaging them, to keep them from surrounding you. The case where I would be using a melee weapon, I would be extremely close in, and wouldn't be guaranteed enough space to swing around something bigger than an entrenching tool.
--- Quote ---Or it doesn't go down and you have to keep moving and suddenly you are missing an important part of your neck?
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You are holding them off with the other hand if you have to, leather covering every inch of skin, up to the top of the neck, then a helmet of some sort. If you are hand-to-hand, you are already in trouble, and I really don't see how the situation you described is different than with any melee weapon besides a 20 foot pike.
--- Quote ---Personally I would not go for an entrenching tool or the spade because, if I am brutally honest there is never going to be a zombie outbreak. Its far more reasonable to prepare for a man made apocalypse than one foisted on us by fiction.
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Hey... that's what the zombie spies say! Get him!
Realistically, though, that would change the gear choice, but not the tactics choice. Some people would be using the same rifle, but I would probably go with an FAL, camo, ballistic vest with inserts, but still carrying a hatchet, entrenching tool, and hooligan bar (it would be nice if you have an entranching tool with fold-out bits like the hooligan bar).
Patrick, the bleach can also be used to purify water, though it is rather nasty tasting. I'd probably recommend a shotgun as a second gun, as well. Loaded with hardcast lead slugs, because you have polar bears to deal with, and a 5.56 isn't going to be much use against one of them. Alternately, you could get a .45-70 gun, that would be nice and long range too, and works against bear.
edit: just noticed IronFist's edit of weapon choice on the last page. Those are good suggestions, but the caliber is heavier than you need for zombies, I'd go for an SKS, especially if you could get a reliable 30-round magazine one. They are also cheap as anything, you could outfit 10 people with one for the price of one AR-15.
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