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Twelvth:

--- Quote from: benji on 06 Feb 2009, 11:47 ---
--- Quote from: SrMeowMeow on 06 Feb 2009, 11:33 ---I'm not sure what to make of it either. I feel like maybe it's wrong of me to think that (somehow) but it definitely colors my thoughts. If I read a lesbian comic with lots of sexual thoughts from the female protagonist, I would be pretty uncomfortable to find out it was drawn by a man. Somehow that feels pornographic in the hands of a man in a way that it doesn't if it's drawn by a lesbian. Is that wrong? I'm not sure. I'd feel the same way about a comic that contained lots of explicit thoughts and experiences about a male protagonist if it was drawn by a woman, by the way. It seems like vicarious exploration of fantasies rather than something honest. This is obviously more extreme than how I feel about QC sometimes, but I'm just making an argument.

I'm really not sure how I feel about my opinions on this, but I do hold them pretty strongly. I'm happy to debate them, though, and I'm also happy to change my mind.

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Ok, so you're not comparing today's QC to Lesbian Pirates from Outer Space. You're comparing the latter to some hypothetical comic that is about lesbians but drawn by a man. It seemed like a strange criticism for today's comic, given that it was about straight sex (which is presumably a topic that a married heterosexual man would have some knowledge of) and written from the man's (Sven's) perspective.

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Actually I can understand the point, if not the context.   For instance, I have a fair number of female friends and we make sexual jokes and stuff about eachother.  When the girl who admittedly has had a crush on me does so it feels far more like sexual harassment than when the lesbian does.  It's a similar sort of thing.


--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 08 Feb 2009, 13:04 ---To be fair, I don't think any of the left-column peoples ever really had artistic integrity.  Or even artistry, with the possible exception of Eddie Van Halen, who was at least talented.  In their defense, I don't think most of them even know what music is supposed to sound like, so you can't really blame them for "selling out."  They were out to begin with.

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Actually I have it on good report that while most members of the Pussycat Dolls ARE in fact probably tone-deaf, at least one of them is also a classical violist.

That's fairly musical by nature.

lolwut:

--- Quote from: Twelvth on 10 Feb 2009, 02:04 ---Actually I can understand the point, if not the context.
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your inability to be comfortable around your straight female friends doesn't mean that the point is valid

Twelvth:
No, it does, the other straight female friends are fine.

It's a valid point.  It just doesn't necessarily apply.

which does make sense.

lolwut:
it's not a valid point, though
it's all inferred; it's entirely subjective

SrMeowMeow:
It's not invalid though, even if it is subjective. For example, I'm a lot more comfortable with a black rapper using the N word than a white rapper.

Look, this really isn't a big deal to me. I just resent the implication that my opinion is invalid because you disagree.

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