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Oh, Sven ...
jedraft:
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--- Quote from: Ravenswing on 23 Feb 2009, 23:37 ---How many people'd be calling him immature and a user if instead of being poly, he was a hockey player? "Faye, I like playing hockey." "Well, if I catch you around a hockey rink, I'm outta here." "Umm, hey Faye, I played hockey last night." "Then we're through."
Sorry, no sympathy for Faye here. If you demand monogamy, don't hook up - and it WAS a hookup, nothing more - with someone who's openly, admittedly poly. If you do anyway, then make sure you HAVE a committed relationship and you're on the same wavelength. If you don't bother to do that, to the point you tell your friends that the SO's nothing more to you than the ongoing 11 PM booty call, then spare us the "it hurts so much."
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Just because she knew the terms of the relationship doesn't mean she can't feel upset when he does something she told him she'd be upset about. Generally, when people are sleeping together regularly, they feel something towards each other, especially when they also hang out sometimes rather than just getting busy. They don't have to be exclusive or in love to have a bond. I don't get where people got this idea that casual sex has to exist in an emotional vaccuum where you can't even give a shit about each other. Casual is casual, sure, but human beings still have feelings.
I mean, the fact that he has trouble enjoying sleeping with Gina and the fact that he feels sort of guilty about it afterwards proves that it's a two-way street. Even if what he did was technically okay, he knew it was going to upset Faye. Doing something you know will upset someone else is your right, but it is kinda a jerk thing to do.
Also, Sven's not poly. He just sleeps around. There is a difference.
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Sorry. No sympathy for Faye. It's one of those "get a helmet" moments that life hands you. And the unbelievable double-standard is absurd.
Prominent Internet Figure:
I am VERY concerned with what Jeph does and does not advocate.
Srsly.
If he enjoys pickled asparagus and promotes it's use I quit teh comic.
KeepACoolin:
--- Quote from: ProjektTHOR on 25 Feb 2009, 09:18 ---Just curious if I'm the only person who thinks the following:
a) Faye got what was coming to her by deciding to get into a platonic, uncommitted relationship with a sexually promiscuous dude.
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You do realize that "platonic" means idealized and metaphysical, right? And that when used in reference to relationships it means nonsexual? Their relationship is the total opposite of platonic.
ProjektTHOR:
--- Quote from: Random832 on 25 Feb 2009, 10:25 ---I think this is out of line - do you think he endorses everything Pintsize says, too? He hasn't noticeably painted any of his characters with the "this character's views represent those of the author" brush.
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I think this is out of line - do you think I endorse everything Jeph writes about? I haven't noticeably written with the "everything this forum in this forum is opinion taken as fact"-pencil.
My point is that, regardless of whether or not he endorses anything he writes about, it sets a pretty terrible example on gender relations. You can be a major screenplay writer, novelist, or journalist and the words you write might not be what you believe, but they still can be endorsed by others.
Not only that, but you're deciding to ignore my question so that you can win some internet tuff guy argument. A++
To above post, thanks for clarifying, but you're still doing the same thing: Dodging the argument I put forth so you can seem like some Internet Proofreader. Perhaps, maybe, by chance, something of substance can be discussed =X
Random832:
--- Quote from: ProjektTHOR on 25 Feb 2009, 10:51 ---
--- Quote from: Random832 on 25 Feb 2009, 10:25 ---I think this is out of line - do you think he endorses everything Pintsize says, too? He hasn't noticeably painted any of his characters with the "this character's views represent those of the author" brush.
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I think this is out of line - do you think I endorse everything Jeph writes about? I haven't noticeably written with the "everything this forum in this forum is opinion taken as fact"-pencil.
My point is that, regardless of whether or not he endorses anything he writes about, it sets a pretty terrible example on gender relations. You can be a major screenplay writer, novelist, or journalist and the words you write might not be what you believe, but they still can be endorsed by others.
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The line you crossed was in speculating on Jeph's personal life.
But anyway, you're right in that that's beside the point. My point is that there's a very big difference between saying "this is how things should be" and "this exists" - and unless you're going to say that no-one has a double standard like that in real life, "this exists" is not at all wrong. The QC characters are all too messed up in various ways for me to believe that they're being held up as some sort of ideal of perfection that people should aspire to be like. They're just ordinary people with ordinary problems [well, except Pintsize. And Hannelore maybe.], that's one of the great things about this comic.
Anyway, panel 5 seems to confirm that this is not as simple as an author saying "HURRR SVEN IS TOTALLY IN THE WRONG HERE" - there's shades of gray.
(edit: i hate when i hit quote instead of edit)
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