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Oh, Sven ...
spinyhedgehog:
--- Quote from: Jackie Blue on 05 Feb 2009, 19:42 ---Well, this strip is where the comic officially went about a thousand miles over the shark for me.
I guess Jeph is writing to his audience now, which is fine, but that audience won't be including me anymore.
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I totally agree. I gave up on the comic about a year ago because of the overlong story arcs, needless drama/sex, and tendency to create awesome comic relief characters and then drop them in a month.
(My roommate pointed this one out to me and I was curious about its reception. Hence, a brief return.)
Sidenote: anyone wondering what happened to Faye's chest scar? The guest comic had it and none of Jeph's own have.
--- Quote from: Jackie Blue on 06 Feb 2009, 12:21 ---A lot of strips over the past couple years have looked to me like someone who is writing something but thinking in the back of his mind that he'd really rather be writing something else. I'm not sure he ever wanted QC to turn into as much of a soap opera as it has now. Especially given how bad he is at writing arguments (see: Dora vs. Marten recently).
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QC was smart aleck over-your-head music and fiction/fantasty/politics references. Now its fights and sex. I have to agree with this.
--- Quote from: Lost Coastlines on 06 Feb 2009, 20:55 ---I think that was more for those of us who wondered about the mechanics of such a relationship.
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Like Beauty and the Beast.
Final sidenote: I don't understand why people are saying he is catering to his audience when a good part of his audience seems to not like what just happened, or at least not totaly be comfortable/satisfied with it. Thoughts?
sealionsarah:
--- Quote from: Pet Peeve on 06 Feb 2009, 08:26 ---Joined for this one message, because ya'll make me sick, and I'll never be visiting this pathetic subforum again.
The author is drawing and writing this comic to tell a story. It's not written to mirror the reader's relationships, or make them feel better about their insecurities, or to end in a way that makes them happy. If a plotline makes you unhappy, you are NOT allowed to say that it's a bad story just because of that. If you do, you need to seek professional help, because you're getting emotional validation out of a comic strip.
If you don't like the story, stop reading. But to claim because there's a sex scene (and a damn funny and story-appropriate one at that) that he's doing "fanservice" (especially stupid because there's only one minor character in the strip, and probably not one that freaky obsessives want to see naked), or that an activity is "out of character" when you don't *know* the character (you just think you do), makes you a worse-than-useless fan. What the hell is it with people who say "fanservice"? L9osers.
I'm not saying that Jeph is Charles Dickens, but man, if Dickens had this horde of buttheads hounding him as he read each page, he would have never finished anything.
In a story, characters do things because a) the author thinks it will be fun, or b) because it advances the plotlines of that story. They don't do it solely to please the reader unless they're a hack writer, and in a lot of cases they SHOULD be doing things that piss the readers off, or at least make them uncomfortable. I think Jeph does a damn fine job myself.
P.S. Don't bother emailing me about what a bad person I am. Fake email address, and PMs will be laughed at because they prove my point.
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I am giving you a high five! :)
Bob_Mozark:
--- Quote from: Lepton on 06 Feb 2009, 13:23 ---I fail to see how this is "selling out". Good fiction needs conflict, and I'd rather watch something meaningful than Dora and Marten fighting about little stupid stuff. At least this way we'll see some more character development.
This is completely within Sven's character; he likes Faye more than he's willing to admit, that's why he cut back on the womanizing, but he's drunk, and he hasn't actually changed. He just told himself that he has.
And I think this is why Faye is screwing him in the first place; he's the safe guy for her to date because she knows he's going to mess up and do something like this, so that when he lets her down, she can be angry at him for a while instead of her dad.
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I agree with your first two points. As for the reason Faye has hooked up with Sven, besides her loneliness and a desire to "scratch an itch" and the obvious spark between them, could it not also be that she knows that he is not going to change and so she doesn't have to worry about a having to deal with the eventual compromises required for a long-term relationship.
Superkid11:
I have pretty much nothing to say on this except I'd like to see Steve actually jump over a shark on water skis.
Surgoshan:
While drunk. And with the Monster riding shotgun.
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