Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT: February 16-20, 2009
demency:
--- Quote from: tragic banjo on 19 Feb 2009, 10:02 ---Almost everyone here seems to be operating on the assumption that monogamy is inherently good. I'm not saying it's bad either, but it's one relationship choice among many, all with their pros and cons, and yet people act like monogamy has been objectively proven to be the absolute best.
And heeeeere come the pretzels.
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You know, it's funny, but I didn't notice anyone here having a discussion on the positives and negatives of monogamy vs. polyamory, which makes your desire to leap in and attempt to turn this into a discussion on the merits of poly kind of.... conspicuous. Particularly since Sven would have to be just about the worst possible role model you could pick for polyamory, since his pre-Faye MO was to meet girls, sleep with them, lie to them, vanish, and find someone else to bang. Recall the time he tried to get Marten to lie for him.
BryanP:
--- Quote from: tragic banjo on 19 Feb 2009, 10:02 ---Almost everyone here seems to be operating on the assumption that monogamy is inherently good. I'm not saying it's bad either, but it's one relationship choice among many, all with their pros and cons, and yet people act like monogamy has been objectively proven to be the absolute best.
And heeeeere come the pretzels.
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It has nothing to do with whether it's the right thing or the wrong thing, merely whether it's the agreed upon thing. If two people agree upon an open relationship that's one thing. If they agree on monogamy and one breaks that rule they shouldn't be surprised when the other gets upset.
Kugai:
We all know that Sven is an asshole when it comes to women, and Faye made it clear about how she felt about the 'Relationship' right at the beginning, but what some people are forgetting is the Timeshift that has occured between now and then. Several months have now gone by, and despite it all, they're still together.
This indicates to me that, despite Faye knowing Sven's past, she and he have formed some level of coupleship. This makes Sven all the more an asshole in this as he knows that he's in some sort of monogamous relationship with Faye and Faye has come to see Sven as something more than 'The Weekly Lay' that she started this in.
I will give Sven kudos and high marks for actually having the stones to actually admit it to Faye himself before she inevitably found out in other ways. I like the way Faye handled it when he did tell her too. It's all to easy to imagine her going Klingon on his ass at that point (Sven knew that too, hence the cringe) but the way she handled it by walking away before she blew her stack shows she has gained a certain level of maturity.
Oh, and Penny's funeral will take place next week.
Mallli_kite:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 19 Feb 2009, 12:18 ---We all know that Sven is an asshole when it comes to women, and Faye made it clear about how she felt about the 'Relationship' right at the beginning, but what some people are forgetting is the Timeshift that has occured between now and then. Several months have now gone by, and despite it all, they're still together.
This indicates to me that, despite Faye knowing Sven's past, she and he have formed some level of coupleship. This makes Sven all the more an asshole in this as he knows that he's in some sort of monogamous relationship with Faye and Faye has come to see Sven as something more than 'The Weekly Lay' that she started this in.
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Kugai, I don't usually like to disagree with you, because you're usually right on with your interpretations, but this time I can't agree.
The discussion where Faye made the conditions known to Sven was in comic 1307. In 1309 she and Marten have the comparative relationship talk where she calls Sven an asshole and herself a bitch. In 1319 (judging from clothing changes, about 6 days worth of QC time, maybe a full week) Sven and Faye have a discussion about 'cuckolding" (love that word) and either later that day or the next came the news about Gina Riversmith playing on "Saturday". So, stretching it out to say a full week passed between 1319 and 1343, that's two weeks since the "You sleep with someone else and I'm gone" talk and the confession in 1341 (which would make the day of revelation a Sunday ). I'm also pushing out the time -- it could have been as little as 8 days total. The Marten/Faye drama took place in a single day in between those points, as did the Hannelore flu thing, but those took up a lot of the comic. In between that time Sven and Faye met when Sven came in for coffee, and that's all we see.
So I can't agree that the Timeshift thing is really in operation here, at least between those two points. For the time leading UP to 1307, yeah, I think you have a good point, and some sense of coupledom might be blooming, but that conversation in 1307 sort of ruins that, at least for me. I don't think Sven had any idea of being in a couple until he was actually with Gina and not enjoying it much for thinking about Faye (what a time to have the revelation!)
--- Quote from: Kugai on 19 Feb 2009, 12:18 ---I will give Sven kudos and high marks for actually having the stones to actually admit it to Faye himself before she inevitably found out in other ways. I like the way Faye handled it when he did tell her too. It's all to easy to imagine her going Klingon on his ass at that point (Sven knew that too, hence the cringe) but the way she handled it by walking away before she blew her stack shows she has gained a certain level of maturity.
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Totally agree with that.
--- Quote from: Kugai on 19 Feb 2009, 12:18 ---
Oh, and Penny's funeral will take place next week.
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Bwahahahah! :lol:
Also, the very fact that I can pull up comics like this -- AND WILL -- indicates I really need to get back to grading papers and, I dunno, not obsess about this comic so much. Jeph Jacques, give me back my brain!!!!
ModernRonin:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 19 Feb 2009, 12:18 ---This makes Sven all the more an asshole in this as he knows that he's in some sort of monogamous relationship with Faye and Faye has come to see Sven as something more than 'The Weekly Lay' that she started this in.
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I really pity you (and even more so, your SO) if you base your relationships on "he/she SHOULD HAVE KNOWN x".
Don't get me wrong, I do wish I was psychic. But I'm not. And ye gods, do people who treat me as if I am somehow able to read their mind drive me abso-fucking-lutely insane.
"You should have read my mind and known/done X" is grounds for instant dumpage in my book. The very first time a girl pulls that on me, I walk. It's the number 1 sign of a stupid, immature little princess/bitch. Nobody, male or female, should ever get away with that bullshit.
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