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KvP:
I had a big long post written up but the IE on this school computer ate it all up.

So I'm just going to tell y'all to read this blog post. It ties into the present discussion in that it involves violence against women, but it branches out into matters of privacy and domestic abuse in general. There's a lot to consider in cases like these, and a lot to worry about, given that "she asked for it" is so commonly and casually trotted out. Lots of people, otherwise normal people, think like this. You can see this sort of thought even extending into cases of sexual assault.

What does all this say about us, as a culture?

tania:
i am going to mull over this tonight and write something really nice and long tomorrow morning, maybe with more to do on gender equality. for now i will say i think it all sort of comes from this north american notion which is socialized to some extent in everybody that anybody can stay out of trouble and generally have an awesome life if they just try hard enough; thus when people do get into trouble it's easier to blame it on something they did to deserve it rather than something external and out of their control. also probably explains about a billion other attitudes of ours like why we think capitalism is rad and private health care is rad and the death penalty is rad and poor people should just stop being lazy and get jobs, damnit.

MrBlu:

--- Quote from: Cire27 on 03 Mar 2009, 17:11 ---You understand a psychopath who gets to kill people and beat up young girls?

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I did not say anything about killing people, now did I?

Guido Sarducci:

--- Quote from: SilentJ on 03 Mar 2009, 19:43 ---People as psychotic as this dude clearly is is never a good thing.  It's just as frightening when members of the military do this; a kid in my gym class my senior year of high school once told me about how pissed off Iraqis in general made him, how he "would put a bomb in a goddamn baby carriage just to see some of those fuckers die," and how the Marines get no respect, but when we're all "speaking Iraqi," we're gonna "call on the mothafuckin' MARINES" and such.  Several times.  He's being sent to the Marines' version of OCS.  I am afraid.


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Generally by the time you've made 2nd Lieutenant you have people over you who will rip your head off and shit down your throat if you act out of line toward civilians. We're very fucking particular these days about this kind of thing. Also, no 2LT goes it alone. He has sergeants. And if his commander won't rip him a new one, his sergeants certainly will. One of the unwritten laws of military life is that 2LT's are not in charge, The platoon Sgt is in charge and the Lt is along for the ride. He'll probably get his ass on target before he has a chance to do any real damage. We hope.


--- Quote from: MrBlu on 03 Mar 2009, 22:15 ---I did not say anything about killing people, now did I?
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I've been to a couple of three ring circuses, and I even saw a barn dance once. And I have only met a few people who deserved to have their face ruined. And not once were any of them teen aged yuppies. Grok?

Joseph:
MrBlu, you are really saying that you think there are people who deserve that?

Because they are annoying?

Think about this for a while before replying.

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