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Varg Vikernes (Burzum) released from prison after 16 years

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Thrillho:

--- Quote from: Spluff on 13 Mar 2009, 20:13 ---In my opinion, music can exist as a separate entity from the person who created it. I'm not particularly keen on funding Varg Vikernes, but I don't feel that listening to his music means I approve of his actions - just that I enjoy his music. Music is an entirely subjective experience;  each listener will get something different out of it, different to what the artist got out of their song. What is, say, a nazi anthem to one could be a peace protest to another.

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I've got to agree with this. If I never listened to anybody who disagreed with me, my CD collection would be extremely brief. I'm staunchly anti-drugs, and most of my favourite artists were off their fucking heads. Hell, the greatest influence in my life from a popular culture figure was from Bill Hicks, and he used to say that drugs are here to facilitate our evolution. I don't agree with that whatsoever... I still enjoy his work, though.

Just like I can enjoy 'Fuck Tha Police' by NWA without necessarily considering every policeman to be a racist hatemonger.

Quite apart from which, my viewpoints on things change over time.

KharBevNor:
There are obvious solutions to the 'giving money to a nazi' problem. Mainly, don't buy any Burzum material off of Unholy Records or Cympophane Records (if they do them, not sure), as both are fronts for Resistance Records and go directly to funding insane backwoods skinhead lunatics. Second-hand copies of Misanthropy records versions are the ideologically cleanest, as I'm not sure all the money for those has even got to Varg. Even better, get the original Deathlike Silence vinyls, though good luck with that one.

Or, you know, just pirate it.

Caspian:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 14 Mar 2009, 10:39 ---There are obvious solutions to the 'giving money to a nazi' problem. Mainly, don't buy any Burzum material off of Unholy Records or Cympophane Records (if they do them, not sure), as both are fronts for Resistance Records and go directly to funding insane backwoods skinhead lunatics. Second-hand copies of Misanthropy records versions are the ideologically cleanest, as I'm not sure all the money for those has even got to Varg. Even better, get the original Deathlike Silence vinyls, though good luck with that one.

Or, you know, just pirate it.

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It may be a different band, but I remember some early Deathlike Silence vinyls selling for close to $1000.

Whether he's a nazi or whatever (pretty sure he isn't, by the way, he has a habit of changing round his opinions fairly regularly), he's served his time. you can't just keep people imprisoned because of their ideology. Here's hoping there's a few albums as good as Hvit Lyset or Filosofem, those two at least were rad.



Dude has a weird but rad beard, too. It's like bumfluff x 1000

KharBevNor:
He is such a happy little nazi!

I want to give him a biscuit.

And yeah, DSP vinyl, especially Burzum and Mayhem, changes hands for ridiculous sums of money. The only black metal record more insanely collectible is probably the original pressing of Bathory's self-titled where the goat had red eyes. Apparently a lot of them ended up getting burned by fundies.

bbq:
Varg isn't exactly a nazi, if you take your time to read his articles on his political beliefs.

If you had however taken the time to read them articles, you might also have taken the time to read his articles on what his music is expressing, or what he was trying to achieve through the medium- he wanted to make music that made people drift off into a trance state afterwards is the basic gist of it. I don't think his political beliefs ever influenced him musically.

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