Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT: March 16-20
Thaes:
At some point, some strip has to take place in that "Bad Art & Hemp Store". It just has to happen.
littlefox:
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--- Quote from: Shadic on 17 Mar 2009, 20:35 ---There, Dora has fully explained any irrational behavior she may have towards jealousy. Can people stop calling her a crazy bitch yet?
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Yes the situation in which he has no intention of acting on attraction is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the situation IN WHICH HE HAD NO INTENTION OF ACTING ON HIS ATTRACTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNA;LSDKRUAQ4;OTIUAERT09YU8AERGT98(ERROR 2695);
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Ugh, agreed. Pretty much the only way I can like Dora now is if I get my brain to believe that the entire "MARTEN, I CAN'T BELIEVE OTHER WOMEN LIKE YOU, EVEN THOUGH YOU REFUSE TO DATE THEM" arc didn't exist at all. I think Jeph meant it to be amusing, especially with the physical comedy {swords etc), but the result is that Dora just ... looked ... legitimately insane. To me. And I read all the posts at the time, looking to be convinced, and I'm sorry -- I still think she was misrepresented in that arc, especially if Jeph wants us to like her, which I believe he does. Thus -- attempt at brain-wipe.
I'm also a pretty firm believer in "if you tell the boy how paranoid you are that he'll leave you, he's going to consider leaving you, because he'll wonder why you're so panicky about it all the time, and maybe you know something that he doesn't." It's never actually happened to me, but it's happened to enough of my friends that I know the signs. So, Jeph, unless this is the beginning of a break-up arc, you should probably quit writing Dora to be so irrational, because it's starting to get unrealistic that even Marten, Indie in Shining Armour, would stick around.
RedBeard:
--- Quote ---I'm also a pretty firm believer in "if you tell the boy how paranoid you are that he'll leave you, he's going to consider leaving you, because he'll wonder why you're so panicky about it all the time, and maybe you know something that he doesn't." It's never actually happened to me, but it's happened to enough of my friends that I know the signs. So, Jeph, unless this is the beginning of a break-up arc, you should probably quit writing Dora to be so irrational, because it's starting to get unrealistic that even Marten, Indie in Shining Armour, would stick around.
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I sort of have to disagree with bits of this. If you regularly voice your grievances with your sig. other you'll seldom come to a point where being concerned about what the other does is seen as "crazy." Basically if you bottle stuff up to the point of having it all come out from nowhere, then yeah, a guy is going to get freaked out and question things.
Not every guy is a stone faced emotionless statue who will leave if you tell him how you feel. Most, especially the emo/indie/hardcore group, seem to be the most emotionally in touch. Seems to me like Dora just has some self esteem issues when it comes to girls liking Marten. Makes sense to me because of everything with Faye. However, the whole "girl asking Marten out" thing was a big deal because he didn't tell her not because the fact that other girls like him.
Thiefree:
Ok. Dora is bi, and makes jokes about other ladies all the time.
But she overreacts when Marten gets asked out, and can't stand the thought of him still having feelings for other women.
But she's fine with him fantasizing about Raven.
So, I guess she's just got a very clear mental divide between emotional attachment and sexual attraction? Or it just depends on her mood? Maybe a little of both.
Man, she is one confusing lady!
Mallli_kite:
--- Quote from: RedBeard on 18 Mar 2009, 06:00 ---I sort of have to disagree with bits of this. If you regularly voice your grievances with your sig. other you'll seldom come to a point where being concerned about what the other does is seen as "crazy." Basically if you bottle stuff up to the point of having it all come out from nowhere, then yeah, a guy is going to get freaked out and question things.
Not every guy is a stone faced emotionless statue who will leave if you tell him how you feel. Most, especially the emo/indie/hardcore group, seem to be the most emotionally in touch. Seems to me like Dora just has some self esteem issues when it comes to girls liking Marten. Makes sense to me because of everything with Faye. However, the whole "girl asking Marten out" thing was a big deal because he didn't tell her not because the fact that other girls like him.
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AH! Sense! Dora was upset about the cover up and evasion, not the girl. Redbeard, you demonstrate good listening skills -- that is, you stay tuned in for the whole thing instead of hearing the first six words and concentrating on your rebuttal for the rest of the time someone else is speaking.
Ok, a ranty bit (not at you, RedBeard, I'm just not double posting -- save the electrons!) Saying that "all women are unpredictable and crazed" is as fallacious as saying "all men are sex crazed horn dogs" First, most people find their own behavior pretty damned rational whereas those around them who may not have the whole story or the same perspective think differently. Second, plenty of men can be crazed and unpredictable -- also warm, kind, loving, or outrageous jerks, or generous and empathic, or emotion suppressing stoics, or irrational, crying messes, or anything else available in human behavior. Women are also capable of the whole continuum of behavior. Stop thinking in stereotypes and keep in mind that you, yourself, can be cast as one - and it will be very uncomfortable.
Ranty bit over. Time for caffeine.
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