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october1983:
In that case, a word of warning: Ableton's piracy protection is particularly ingenious in that it will let you use a pirated copy just long enough for you to get properly hooked, and then cut you off and force you to either buy it or use a different piece of software.
ThePianoMan:
Ah. Well then, Reason or Frooty Loops should be fine, depending what you want to make with them.
KharBevNor:
To be honest, with the right VSTs and a back-up wave editor, there's very, very little you can't do in FL studiio, if you're only gonna use it for studio composition. Back it up with a decent wave editor like Audacity, paired with a soundblaster card for sampling, get a good glitch filter and you can do pretty much anything. It's only when it comes to hooking in external instruments or trying to direct live play that the program is seriously weak, in which case Reason will do you. I think the general antipathy towards FL Studio is based on three things, 1) it's dumb original name 2) the fact that its interface seems overly siimplistic compared to most other music production software, especially to someone used to using real electronic instruments and 3) a lot of very bad music is produced with it by people who wouldn't know a good baseline if it kicked their door in at 3 AM and told them it was their real father. This last fact is probably because it is actually remarkably simple to learn. In my opinion, once you master the automation cliips and piano roll it becomes quite a powerful sequencer. Its only real inbuilt limitation is that you can't change time signatures in the middle of a track, but considering a lot of high-end hardware is basically locked in to variations on 4/4 anyway that's hardly a major issue. It's also guff for playing live and its recording function is pretty crap, though if you hook it into Reason as an instrument this problem goes away.
Beastmouth:
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 21 Mar 2009, 19:55 ---Also don't get a MicroKORG cause the keys aren't weighted. Unless that's what you want.
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This is poor advice actually. You may mean don't get a microkorg because the keys aren't velocity-sensitive (that is, responsive to how fast/hard you strike them), which they are (this is just turned off in most of the presets). You may mean don't get one because it doesn't have aftertouch (it doesn't). You may mean don't get one because the keys are tiny and not really that good to play on (but they beat the keys on a 303!). If you do mean actually weighted, as in, having the physical sensation of playing a piano, well, you won't find much in they way of any good synthesizers that are. Basically only the very top of the line 88-key models of workstations will be good synths with weighted keyboards. You could find a digital piano, which will be slightly cheaper and probably have better action, and will be quite useful as a midi controller.
Definitely if you have a computer you'd want to use for all this, going through software would be a good option. But don't forget to look on craigslist and ebay for any cool old synths; I found a Korg Polysix on craigslist for 280 and a Yamaha DXY on ebay for 250 and they're both quite versatile synths.
ThePianoMan:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 22 Mar 2009, 18:36 ---To be honest, with the right VSTs and a back-up wave editor, there's very, very little you can't do in FL studiio, if you're only gonna use it for studio composition. Back it up with a decent wave editor like Audacity, paired with a soundblaster card for sampling, get a good glitch filter and you can do pretty much anything. It's only when it comes to hooking in external instruments or trying to direct live play that the program is seriously weak, in which case Reason will do you.
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Does Reason let you record audio? I was under the impression that neither it nor FL Studio would let you do that.
--- Quote --- I think the general antipathy towards FL Studio is based on three things, 1) it's dumb original name 2) the fact that its interface seems overly siimplistic compared to most other music production software, especially to someone used to using real electronic instruments and 3) a lot of very bad music is produced with it by people who wouldn't know a good baseline if it kicked their door in at 3 AM and told them it was their real father. This last fact is probably because it is actually remarkably simple to learn. In my opinion, once you master the automation cliips and piano roll it becomes quite a powerful sequencer. Its only real inbuilt limitation is that you can't change time signatures in the middle of a track, but considering a lot of high-end hardware is basically locked in to variations on 4/4 anyway that's hardly a major issue. It's also guff for playing live and its recording function is pretty crap, though if you hook it into Reason as an instrument this problem goes away.
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I don't have anything against it in general; I just don't see it as necessary to replace a nice piece of software like Ableton with it. I know a few dubstep producers have done interesting thing with it, so it's definitely POSSIBLE to make nice noises with it.
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