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a pack of wolves:
Jane Doe is utterly textbook metalcore. That Ghostlimb album is great as well, surprisingly catchy and tuneful. And nothing bad can ever come from someone uploading Jehu.

I already really like this thread.



Voorhees - 13 (Six Weeks, 1998)


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Voorhees were a seminal band for me, this was one of the first DIY records I ever heard. Back in the late '90s/early '00s when I first got into DIY music they always seemed to be around, playing with bands like Kill Your Idols and Melt-Banana. They were one of those bands that are the backbone of a scene, and with good reason. They were downright nasty. Hardcore that wasn't self-consciously old school (despite the band forming in '91) or going with the then-rising tide of metalcore (but it is massively heavy, I seem to remember Jacob Bannon was a fan and name-checked them on the Jane Doe tour which ties this in with Converge). It's fast but doesn't head into grind territory, instead preferring to batter the listener around the head at a speedy but reasonable tempo with occasional brutal chug passages just to grind salt into the wound. Their misanthropic hate is equalled only by the likes of Poison Idea and Urko (who I'd love to post here since they're tragically overlooked but sadly can't), but like those bands there's a sense of humour here too, what with the ridiculous Night Of The Crabs and a song title taken from a Brass Eye quote (which ties it in with Glass And Ashes, who were variously appalled and enthralled by that TV show. And no, I'm not sure why I felt the need to find tenuous links between this and other bands mentioned so far either).

StaedlerMars:
When we're talking hardcore we're talking American Hardcore hardcore right?

a pack of wolves:
Depends what you mean. American Hardcore pretty much regards hardcore as dead by the mid-'80s if I remember rightly and none of the bands mentioned so far were active back then. So no in that sense, although all the bands from that book do play the kind of music we're talking about.

I never really understood that whole idea that hardcore was done and dusted by around '84 just because a lot of the initial bands had split. Black Flag were still active, Youth Crew hadn't happened yet... it always seemed it was just an attitude held by people who'd dropped out and somehow felt the need to justify that by saying it was all over anyway.

Will:
I really don't want to turn this thread into a big prick-waving dickfight over what defines "hardcore" - I'd rather possibly discover some new stuff I hadn't heard before. Basically, if you think it qualifies as hardcore, throw it up. 80's, 90's, now...whatever. Basically, I want a place on this board to gush over the GRR BLAH FUCK angry music the same way everyone else gushes over their favorite beep-beep-tweedle-dee band, or their lo-fi happy pop, or whatever else my good friends in the main mediaf!re thread are gushing over*


*Don't be offended by this, I like a lot of your beep-beep-tweedle-dee pop music guys!

EDIT-My next offering.



--- Quote ---Very rarely does a hardcore band pull off a concept album, let alone do it this well. Defeater's 2008 release "Travels" spends a concise 35 minutes telling the story of an unnamed protagonist, from his birth to his formative adolescent years, telling tales of confrontations with his alchoholic & abusive father, his junkie mother ("well, the money's all gone and we can't pay the rent with that needle in her arm") and everything in between. By the end of the record, he has returned to the home he abandoned, to finally deals face to face with what he left behind. Musically, there's a strong influence from American Nightmare and the Kerouac-ian literary/lyrical trappings of Modern Life Is War. Throw in a dash of unabashed love and respect for the archetypes of small-town middle America a la Springsteen, and you've got a fan-fucking-tastic slice of music to prove that intelligent and worthwhile hardcore didn't die in '85.
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a pack of wolves:
I wasn't meaning to do that, sorry if I came across as prick-waving. I've never been overly fussed about what gets called hardcore, unlike emo it's never been much of a bankable term so it doesn't get all that misused really. I just always thought that particular book's definition would be really confusing to someone just wanting to know what hardcore was since it pretty much denies anything after a certain point being hardcore, and I'm just not ready to admit the irrelevance of Chain of Strength.

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