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est:
I like how people are saying "oh hey, i paid $60 for the last one, now i got to pay another 60 for this one?"

No, you don't.  You can keep playing L4D as much as you want.  No-one is forcing you to buy anything.

Johnny C:

--- Quote from: est on 09 Jun 2009, 00:21 ---No, you don't.  You can keep playing L4D as much as you want.  No-one is forcing you to buy anything.

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As good as the AI buddies are, I can see the concern that a large chunk of the user base might just shuffle over to L4D2, leaving a sparse community behind to play the original game. Sucks for all the people who like online play but can't afford the new game!

Storm Rider:

--- Quote from: satsugaikaze on 05 Jun 2009, 00:46 ---Someone I know told me something about how one of the new Zelda games are going to be Wii Motion Plus only.

I think that would be the stupidest move ever.

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Not exactly. Miyamoto essentially said that they'll be keeping a very close eye on the sales of MotionPlus. Depending on how well it does, the Zelda game may not support it at all, require it, or work either way. Either way, it's not going to be finished until next year at the absolute earliest.

And I understand why people are skeptical about Other M, and to an extent I agree, but I'm still pretty jazzed for it. First of all, there's plenty of footage of Samus outside the suit, and she's definitely more reasonably depicted than anyone in Ninja Gaiden or Dead or Alive. Hell, I'd say she's even probably more tasteful than the Zero Suit model in Brawl. Secondly, it came out in interviews after the press conference that the people on the Nintendo side of this partnership are R&D1, aka the people who developed every Metroid game outside of the Prime trilogy. I know Team Ninja doesn't seem like the most immediate fit for the franchise, and their capability is somewhat in question after Itagaki took about half the studio with him when he left, but R&D1's involvement leads me to believe that this isn't some quick and dirty spinoff by Nintendo. I have no doubt that they'll be watching Team Ninja like hawks to make sure that the game both plays well and doesn't fuck with the source material.

It does seem like Metroid is the franchise that Nintendo is most willing to experiment with. But I don't think there's ever been a big-name franchise that was changed so drastically and effectively as the Prime series, so I think they've earned the benefit of the doubt for now. The one complaint I have is that the art design is a noticeable step down from Retro's work, which isn't necessarily a slight on Team Ninja because Retro set an extremely high bar there. But come on, you can't tell me that watching Samus slam an alien down on the floor by its neck and stick her gun it its mouth didn't look badass.

Shale:
I personally don't give two shits about L4D, but in principle it's kind of a jerk move to release an online-only game and then six months later turn around and cut the legs out from under the community with a sequel. A game like L4D generally has a lifespan way longer than a single year.

That it's coming from the same company that's provided so much free content for TF2 is just icing on the very weird cake.

Ozymandias:

--- Quote from: Storm Rider on 09 Jun 2009, 01:53 ---
First of all, there's plenty of footage of Samus outside the suit

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This is already a problem.

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