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pwhodges:
Simplicity is a great virtue; but you mustn't make the mistake (as is also too often done in classical music commentary, for instance, when Wagner comes up, or Schoenberg) of denying the possibility that complexity can also create great music.  The same artist may even use both methods at different times.  And the responsibility of an artist is towards their own music only - they can't be held responsible for the failures of their imitators, however much we may have cause to regret them.

Dazed:
What did Frank Zappa do wrong again? I mean, despite writing irreverent, fun, and awesome music?

I mean, do you really just hate complex music simply for its complexity? I'm sorry to say, clinging to simplicity above all else and trashing all complicated music as "arsing about" is every bit as pretentious as some prog junkie bashing Bob Dylan for not having enough songs in 11/8.


--- Quote ---Just because the option is there to lavish more time, more expense and more detail on a song, it doesn't make it justifiable.
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What makes it justifiable is that sometimes spending more time, more money, and more detail on a song is what the artists want to do for their art. And, sometimes, it works out amazingly, and they create beautiful and memorable music.


TL;DR: Simple music can be good. Complicated music can be good. Claiming one is always better than the other is silly.

JD:
Did that really need a TL;DR?

parm:
So, yeah. Keane.

I was in a band that had been formed to play for the drummer's girlfriend's 30th birthday. We had a set consisting of early 90s Britpop and Madchester covers, some classics (Johnny B. Goode, that sort of thing), and some newer indie-rock stuff. In there, for some reason, was a Keane song. I forget which one.

The gig was going moderately well. I mean, as well as a gig at a party at which no-one is listening to the band and everyone is just sort of sitting around chatting to each other ever is, anyway. We were playing reasonably well and it was all okay. And then we played the Keane song. We got about two lines in before the chill descended on the room. Somehow, that one song managed to suck all the life out of the party. Our playing went to shit. We stumbled and mumbled our way to the end of the song. I may even have apologised into the mic. It was awful. And then we played Disco 2000 by Pulp, and everything was okay again. But jesus, they were the longest three-and-a-half minutes of my life.

Fuck Keane. Seriously, fuck Keane.

Hat:

--- Quote from: imapiratearg on 05 Jun 2009, 07:40 ---Sometimes change is good!  Like, Sgt. Pepper's good!
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Why does Sgt Pepper's always get the rep for being the Beatles first really big change in their sound? Revolver is fucking badass

PS Tommy your opinions on Sgt Pepper's are incorrect it was a studio masterpiece that influenced the way people went into the studio to record and look I like prog-rock ok there is no way I'm letting you trash that album, its a fucking technical masterpiece sorry that you are a punk tommy I guess we were not meant to be.

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