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Zombieland
Alex C:
Yeah, but see, here's the thing: it didn't really have to be particularly true to a character, and more to the point, it was funny and was the sort of thing you expected to happen with Bill Murray being involved. The sentimental parts? Not so much, and if anything these scenes were undermined by the fact that the rest of the movie was markedly different. It is about tone. Trying to have your cake and eat it too is a tricky business. Again, I liked Zombieland. I just think that the sentimental bits were rather shabbily bolted onto a movie that made me laugh a few times.
pilsner:
I have never understood that expression. It is easy to have your cake and eat it too. I myself frequently procure and consume cakes. What is difficult is not having your cake and then eating it. This means you are eating someone else's cake. You are a cake thief, and deserve to be shunned.
Or perhaps the expression refers to one's desire to own a cake and simultaneously eat a cake. With the boundary supposition that one may only have one cake at a time, then certainly eating a whole cake would deprive one of the cake. With cake ownership set to C and cake consumption set to K, then C + K = 0. So indeed as one consumes a cake, one simultaneously deprives oneself of cake ownership.
Happily I live in Canada, where cakes are both cheap and plentiful. I also know a number of bakers, both amateur and semi-professional, who can be induced to supply me with frequent cakes. I can therefore maintain a lifestyle allowing me to simultaneously own and indulge in cakes whenever my whim requires.
What I'm trying to say is that we are perhaps overanalyzing the movie. You are of course entitled to your opinion, but in my eyes the dramatic bits are the bits that glue the comedic bits together in a non-slapstick zombie comedy. Pointing to a recurring gag (the girls driving away with the boys' stuff) and complaining about how that rendered the dramatic moments implausible seems to me like missing the point. Shaun of the Dead also suffered from an implausible romantic relationship but that didn't stop it from being an awesome movie because it demonstrated how much fun it can be to play video games with your zombie buddy.
Alex C:
The problem I have is that I had all these thoughts while I was actually watching the movie. Ideally, I should be too entertained to do that.
elizaknowswhatshesfor:
My sister studied Media & film as her degree (I'm going somewhere with this...) She was really into the technical side of things, the way shots worked & what they were called. WHilst this was really interesting when watching Star wars for the twelvetyith time, when watching a new film it SUCKED. & I mean SUCKED all the fun out of it.
That is over analysing to the point of it not being fun any more, questioning a movie whilst watching it is GOOD (Maybe not for the movie.) It is what people who like films do, otherwise we should all just switch off & go watch Epic movie & Idiocracy would be even more real than it is.
A truly great film that sweeps you up & takes you away somewhere else & has you invest your emotions into made up characters (Or sometimes real ones if it's a doc.) is a rare & beautiful thing.
Zombieland made me forget that I'm having a shitty time at the moment & I can't get the image of the slo-mo stripper out of my head, but not talking about it afterwards, whether that was waiting for my bus home with the person I went to see it with, or on here or anywhere else defies the point of going to see a film, sharing the experience, good or bad is integral to my enjoyment.
ViolentDove:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 22 Oct 2009, 22:16 ---With cake ownership set to C and cake consumption set to K, then C + K = 0. So indeed as one consumes a cake, one simultaneously deprives oneself of cake ownership.
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Sigg'ed.
I will probably see this movie. It sounds pretty entertaining.
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