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Michael Jackson Died, Guys
KvP:
--- Quote ---Oh this is so untrue it almost hurts.
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It's usually somewhere around 5-7 percent. It's telling that when faced with those odds people tend to gamble on the off chances. Given a choice people would rather sympathize with a martyr than a victim.
--- Quote from: supersheep on 29 Jun 2009, 03:11 ---That is so wrong it hurts. In fact, it's that sort of attitude that is responsible for a LOT of the shit associated with poor treatment of abuse victims and low conviction rates.
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Could you explain that?
--- Quote ---It is also possible that he did little or no harm, but that harm has been created or increased by outside observers telling children they've been harmed. This area is, as we know well, a minefield.
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The studies I have (and linked to) put that scenario at about 1% of all reported cases. This is all quite similar in spirit to the slut-shaming that usually happens when rape is reported, since crimes cannot possibly occur to "disreputable" people. We would rather be safe in belittling possible victims than presume to discredit the reputation of possible offenders.
0bsessions:
Jackson's children will go to Michael's parents.
Oh, this is just going to go absolutely swimmingly, I bet.
Candle:
i wouldn't trust the guy around kids.
i'm not getting into this; all i'm saying is when shit reoccurs like that i lose respect for a dude regardless of his lawyer or mental state.
besides that, i've never truly understood the whole 'omigod a celebrity died' mentality. His music was okay, but i can name tons of other artists that would leave me more disgruntled with their untimely death.
KvP:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 29 Jun 2009, 11:30 ---Jackson's children will go to Michael's parents.
Oh, this is just going to go absolutely swimmingly, I bet.
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From what I understand it was indicated in MJ's will that his children would be put in the custody of their grandmother. The childrens' mother has unofficially relinquished claims to the children but it was never 100% sealed, and so I think she'll sue for custody and a hefty support allowance.
supersheep:
--- Quote from: KvP on 29 Jun 2009, 10:25 ---Could you explain that?
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I mean that this willingness to assume that false accusations of rape or abuse are far more common than they actually are is symptomatic of a bunch of attitudes in society that make it very tough for people to even come forward when they are raped or abused, let alone deal with the horrible shitstorm that is the entire justice process in rape and abuse cases.
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