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Yo Jeph:
Spluff:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 07 Jul 2009, 04:46 ---Do you really feel that as a kid more than ten years younger than Jeph, a highly successful web artist for quite a number of years now, it's your place to give him advice (based, it would seem, on an inability to see the distinctions in his drawings that are clearly there)?
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Or possibly it's because Jeph has admitted his art has a long way to go, and external feedback can go a long way in helping him improve?
I mean, the guy in the OP probably came off like a dick but his heart was in the right place.
Jimor:
For me, it's hard to say. Jeph has at times said how he's accidentally let the art drift in directions he didn't want (making Faye too thin for a while for example), but he's also had drift just from the way his skills have advanced. I was really surprised when I saw how much the characters have changed since comic 1000. I was under a self-made mistaken impression that he had settled into the current style by then.
So as a heads up along the order of "hey Jeph, did you intend to change in this direction?" the OP makes sense. From there, it's up to Jeph to say either "oops, you're right, that's not what I intended" or "no, I'm evolving my style towards that for a reason" or even "no, it's just about how I've always had them lately and you are mistaken".
The tone though was a bit strong, to the point where I thought it was possibly one of his fellow webcomic buddies giving him a hard time. If he doesn't know Jeph, then yah, I don't think it's going to go over all that well.
In the end, it's Jeph's comic, and it will continue to evolved and change as he does.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Spluff on 07 Jul 2009, 05:19 ---I mean, the guy in the OP probably came off like a dick but his heart was in the right place.
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The problem is that his specific criticisms are simply wrong.
QuarterFire:
You know, I like how offended people get when some criticizes someone else's drawings. Besides, art is a visual medium, anyone can say "Oh, that doesn't look realistic" or "Oh, that face looks the same as the other". It doesn't take an artist to see these things. And the fact that the person knows how to avoid the problem indicates that he has more experience than Jeph. So get off your high horses and learn how to deal with criticism, and constructive criticism at that!
Spluff:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 07 Jul 2009, 07:27 ---
--- Quote from: Spluff on 07 Jul 2009, 05:19 ---I mean, the guy in the OP probably came off like a dick but his heart was in the right place.
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The problem is that his specific criticisms are simply wrong.
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I can see where he is coming from - and you should know just as well as anybody that art is not objective, you can't just dismiss something like this as 'simply wrong'. I suppose the issue lies in that when you are constructing your characters in a semi-realistic way, unless you are either very good or spend more time than I'd assume Jeph has (what with him producing a comic daily), it becomes difficult to create serious distinctions in facial structure for each new character in a simple and minimalistic way without going down the goofy cartoon route.
But on the other hand I'm only posting here because I am bored out of my mind. I don't really know how many replies this thread warranted, but whatever that amount is, I'm sure we've exceeded it.
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