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Burning Man 2009: anyone going?
Boro_Bandito:
I freely admit that if I went to Burning Man that I would probably do there exactly what I do now most evenings, which is smoke a lot of pot. I would also like to try shrooms at some point in my life, and I feel like Burning Man would be a relatively easy place to acquire them at.
I don't know a whole lot about Burning Man, but what strikes me is just the odd inventions people tend to have there from what pictures and videos Joe's posted here and my own interwebs searches. Lately I've been really trying hard to work more at making things with my hands, be it for art or function, working on my parent's house painting and remodeling, etc. Things like that spider walker? i would really, really love to see how that was made and possibly work towards making something like it myself. I really regret not taking more classes back in high school like shop (I took one advanced shop class my senior year and it is possibly one of the best classes I've ever taken) or learned more about how cars/engines mechanical stuff work.
I'm not denying though that in the end I'm probably exactly like the kid in the decade old Onion article though too.
onewheelwizzard:
I think people have the idea that Burning Man is about everyone tripping the whole time, and that many attach this to a parallel idea that the place is full of slackers and layabouts and generally the kind of dirty lazy hippies that you'd never expect to contribute to society in the "real world," and who go to Burning Man because that's where they can just sit around and get really ridiculously high all the time (because that's what people think happens at Burning Man).
The fact of the matter is that everything that happens there (and there are some completely absurd, massive, outrageous things that happen there) happens through a lot of hard work and dedication on the part of everyone who goes. Lazy people do not thrive at Burning Man ... they get sunburned and dehydrated and fed up with the heat and the dust, and they don't come back. The only reason why people come back to Burning Man is to contribute to it, to offer something to an effort they want to be personally involved in and take responsibility for. Just being self-reliant in a place like the Black Rock Desert is a lot of work on its own, let alone taking the initiative to build a double-decker bus into a giant birthday cake and have a roaming 3-mph dance party until 5 in the morning every night.
By FAR the majority of Burners are hard workers, who understand when they need sober intervals of holding shit down and supporting the community around them (and you'd be amazed at how many people see this as a constant effort and never actually get all that fucked up). It HAS to be that way ... I mean, it's not like anyone's getting paid for what they're doing, and yet it all happens anyway. You can't have the kind of fun that people have at Burning Man without really taking shit seriously and buckling down when the time calls for it, and that means not being stoned off your ass all the goddamn time.
For me, Burning Man is about 25% working on my own behalf (to stay fed and hydrated and sheltered and generally healthy), 25% contributing to the effort of maintaining my camp (to make sure they're all equally cared for), 30% walking around semi-to-fully sober (maybe a few drinks or a joint over the course of a day) to attend workshops or meditations or just to hang out with strangers and give them gifts and check out their art and maybe help them build or cook something, and 20% tripping face a couple nights out of the week and going to completely crazy parties. If I didn't treat it as at least half hard work, I'd just burn out (haha) and I'd be a wreck halfway through the week (and some people do this, and learn their lesson, and work harder the next time they go, or don't come back). My crew this year is 20 people, and we're a cell within a bigger 130-person camp, so there's a LOT of cooperation and hard work that needs to happen, especially since we're taking charge of kitchen setup and maintenance and cooking for at least one or two nights of dinner.
Even taking into account how much work it is to build and maintain, my camp (Disorient) is still a relatively simple, party-oriented one, compared to a place like Entheon Village, which maintains Sanctuary (the psychedelic emergency services center) and is populated in part by members of MAPS and CosM. Entheon runs a near-constant series of meditations, yoga classes, workshops, lectures, discussion panels, and the like. (They also bring a 70-foot fire-breathing dragon art car with a 10,000-watt sound system, visual projections, and a bar, but their reputation is really built on the knowledge they spread and the example they set for eco-friendly practices.) Disorient can bring the fucking noise, and we do ... the mobile sound on the DEX, our art car, is pretty ludicrous, but no matter what you do at Burning Man, there's always someone else taking it one step further.
loco_banana:
--- Quote from: Trollstormur on 17 Jul 2009, 21:51 ---burning man is such a crock of shit.
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Why? I've heard a lot of good things.
Jimor:
--- Quote from: loco_banana on 04 Aug 2009, 16:36 ---
--- Quote from: Trollstormur on 17 Jul 2009, 21:51 ---burning man is such a crock of shit.
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Why? I've heard a lot of good things.
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Well, there's this now: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/08/snatching-rights-playa
--- Quote ---Those Terms and Conditions include a remarkable bit of legal sleight-of-hand: as soon as “any third party displays or disseminates” your photos or videos in a manner that the Burning Man Organization (BMO) doesn’t like, those photos or videos become the property of the BMO. This “we automatically own all your stuff” magic appears to be creative lawyering intended to allow the BMO to use the streamlined “notice and takedown” process enshrined in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) to quickly remove photos from the Internet.
The BMO also limits your own rights to use your own photos and videos on any public websites, (1) obliging you to take down any photos to which BMO objects, for any reason; and (2) forbidding you from allowing anyone else to reuse your photos (i.e., no licensing your work no matter what is depicted, including Creative Commons licensing, and no option to donate your work to the public domain).
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Drill King:
This thread is infinitely irritating, I'll just agree with Tania and be all, fuck you Joe jealous. However I guess I might be going to Sunseekers which is fun enough so I am okay
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