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Good and/or Indie films.
dancarter:
It's completely remixed, the video has been completely overhauled and cleaned up, and it's 11 minutes longer. it laso includes n. gaiman's review of the original theatirical cut.
Ikrik:
-> De_El
I think that Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance was the weakest in the trilogy. The main reason I didn't like it was because the characters were absolutely impossible for me to connect with. A main character who's deaf and mute? I believe that that is so difficult to work with and I didn't think that Park Chan-Wook was experienced enough at that time to really deal with it. The story was, alright, but I didn't like it. I loved the cinematography in it and the scenery and locations used I thought were awesome.
Lady Vengeance was, for me, a superior movie. It has a good story, it's very tight, very well paced, great characters. The feel is similar to Oldboy but I think that it separates itself enough that it doesn't feel the same.
In the end they're both great films but they boil down to personal preference. They're both worth a watch. I own all 3. And I'll watch them all again next month when I get my box of dvd's back from my friend.
Dimmukane:
I'll weigh in on that debate, I also own all three.
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is the weakest. As Ikrik said, having a deaf/mute character is kind of hard to get around. His motives don't feel as valid as everyone else's because he's not the one saying them. Because of that, the movie feels slower than it actually is. That, and a couple plot points felt slightly shoehorned in. Other than that, the cinematography is just as good as in the other three; Park just doesn't use as much color correction.
Oldboy is still my favorite. If it weren't for Choi Min-Sik, it probably wouldn't have been my favorite. Storywise, not considering the performances of the actors, Lady Vengeance is a little more poignant. The lead being reunited with her daughter and all the parents getting their own retribution is a little more moving than a man bent on the destruction of his captor. However, the buildup and climax of Oldboy was executed damn near perfectly and the actors did a great job. Plus it was mad stylish.
My complaints with Lady Vengeance are that the little girl's song on the way out to the school kind of yanks you out of the movie for a bit. Some of the performances were a little forced, and it is kind of hard to ignore the similarities between it and Oldboy. Park Chan-Wook sure likes his Vivaldi. If you can watch the last two several months apart so that they're not at the front of your mind it's easier to enjoy them as seperate movies. It basically is Oldboy Lite, but there's nothing wrong with that; but it'll stick out if you're used to watching ultra-stylistic/violent movies for not being as intense.
Cartilage Head:
Gummo.
FruitKat:
For good indie films there are a few from New Zealand that I could recommend:
Once Were Warriors - This one has already been mentioned but is an AMAZING film, very very depressing but highly recommended.
In My Fathers Den - A mystery thriller about a son returning to a small town in New Zealand from being a war journalist and getting caught up in his past. Stand out performance by a young actress called Emily Barclay, I think she was around 18 when this was filmed and is really great.
Eagle vs. Shark - Cutesy indie comedy. Stars Jemaine Clements who is a total jerk. People liken it to Napoleon Dynamite, but I think it is much better. Still awkward, just better.
Otherwise I don't know, any Wes Anderson films? Bottle Rocket? If you liked Amelie you should watch A Very Long Engagement. I am not sure if it is "indie", but for some reason I completely overlooked it for a while, it really is a beautiful film.
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