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KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: Sox on 23 Jul 2009, 15:41 ---Music theory is incredibly useful. As you begin to learn and grow without it, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't, you slowly begin to realise that there actually are these patterns and that everything you're learning has been learned a thousand times before by somebody else and then packaged as music theory.

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Music theory is an essentially arbitrary set of rules that conditions us towards hearing sound in a certain way (it is just as easy to arrange sounds in any number of ways). It is a pointless contrivance unless you want to make some boring fucking rock music or something.

Also it makes people who jack off about music theory really upset, which is wonderful because it is an unbelievably joyless way to treat music.

Knowing music theory would almost certainly make this guys music more boring.

Be My Head:
This is the exact opposite of boring, and was created with the knowledge of shitloads of music theory.

So there!!  :mrgreen:
 

MadassAlex:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Jul 2009, 18:44 ---Music theory is an essentially arbitrary set of rules that conditions us towards hearing sound in a certain way (it is just as easy to arrange sounds in any number of ways). It is a pointless contrivance unless you want to make some boring fucking rock music or something.

Also it makes people who jack off about music theory really upset, which is wonderful because it is an unbelievably joyless way to treat music.

Knowing music theory would almost certainly make this guys music more boring.

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You'll only ever hear this from people who don't know theory.

Besides, "theory" refers to any system used to describe the relationship between notes. As soon as you start describing the relationships between notes, even in your own terms, that is theory.

The thing about theory is that it doesn't set down rules. Instead, it describes an action/consequence relationship between notes. It's not like there's big neon lights saying "DON'T PLAY C# OVER G". That's the domain of harmonic purists.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: Be My Head on 23 Jul 2009, 19:02 ---This is the exact opposite of boring, and was created with the knowledge of shitloads of music theory.

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So we should make music just like music that was made a hundred years ago to satisfy your mathematics fetish?

It's like the last sixty years or so have never happened! And all that 'you need to know the rules before you can break them' stuff is utter crap. That's just something they like to trot out to prevent outsiders getting a decent look-in.

MadassAlex:
The idea that music theory is a limiting factor is ridiculous, and is only considered as such by people who haven't learned it.

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