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David_Dovey:
You know you think that eventually they'd finally sit up and say "Oh, that's just Khar, he hates everything, ignore him" but nope, they just keep on coming back for more.

supersheep:

--- Quote from: Sox on 24 Jul 2009, 04:39 ---Everything in this post was written in ignorance. Music theory is a clumsy language. It is nothing more than a way of communicating music. It does not condition you to hearing sound in a certain way anymore than learning the names of different shades of colours conditions you to see photographs any differently.

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Hi there! I'm the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis!

There's an interesting thing underlying this whole thing. I mean, if you want to make music that consciously plays with the rules then music theory is an essential component of what you will do. It is difficult to deconstruct music without first knowing how it is constructed. Postmodernism is a word that I think I am going to throw in here for no real reason.
On the other hand, you don't need music theory to make music. Hell the whole "Here are three chords, now start a band" concept has produced some ridiculously awesome music. While personally I would probably like to have some music theory under my belt before starting out to make anything significantly complicated, I'd say the bits I remember from doing music for ages would be enough to get me through.
With regards to the purpose of the thread, there is certainly something in there. I am intrigued. I like the sort of "odd noises and bits and pieces" approach to music - albeit generally I prefer it when they are mixed in with some thumping beats, flashy lights, and a roomful of Class-A ingesting loons, but that is personal preference. If you want to, learn some music theory. If not, keep on banging out stuff and you will probably 'learn' things as you go along.

Alex C:
I consider my time spent in dabbling in music theory to have been a complete waste of time. It's useful in the sense that it's a common grammar with which to communicate, but essentially that means I never, ever use it because I've found that I could not possibly care less about learning from others when it comes to fucking around with music.

Sox:
The thing about theory is that it's just a language, not a tool. So whether you speak the language or not, other people who do can and will be able to see your music in terms of music theory, regardless of whether or not you paid any attention to it your self. The odds of any music at all existing without people being able to see it in terms of music theory are nil because it is just a big collection of words and phrases that account for just about anything.
It's not a strict collection of rules at all, it's just a more complicated way of saying "this one has a 'chuggah chuggah' bit with a 'deeeeeedle dwoooooooop' over the top."

Music theory is just adjectives.

David_Dovey:

--- Quote from: supersheep on 24 Jul 2009, 06:59 --- "Here are three chords"

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Congratulations, you just learnt some (albeit very little) music theory!

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