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De_El:
The music is all right. People who dismiss anything as noise don't have worthwhile opinions on music.

But. And don't get me wrong I don't mean to be insulting—do people actually call you it genius? Because while you make decent sounds, or even if they were very good sounds, please do not think of your self as some mythical, touched-by-god savant. That would be the worst of pretensions. The way you talk about your music is indeed a bit pretentious, and the ideas you seem to present are pretty old hat, which is fine really, provided what you produce is interesting and worth listening to, but don't use this nonsense about "pure extension" and "unsophisticated abstraction" as a crutch.

rynne:
For what it is, it's decent.  It's not groundbreaking by any means (see, for example, brainwashed.com, for plenty of artists working in pretty much the same genre) but if this is really your first attempt at making this kinda stuff I'd say you have a decent natural talent for assembling sounds and effects.  Frankly, I think the structures are fine for the type of music you're making.

My suggestion would be to move away from your reliance on samples.  Both the cliched movie-dialogue ones and the musical ones.

Lhefriel_Medies:

--- Quote from: De_El on 22 Jul 2009, 15:55 ---The music is all right. People who dismiss anything as noise don't have worthwhile opinions on music.

But. And don't get me wrong I don't mean to be insulting—do people actually call you it genius? Because while you make decent sounds, or even if they were very good sounds, please do not think of your self as some mythical, touched-by-god savant. That would be the worst of pretensions. The way you talk about your music is indeed a bit pretentious, and the ideas you seem to present are pretty old hat, which is fine really, provided what you produce is interesting and worth listening to, but don't use this nonsense about "pure extension" and "unsophisticated abstraction" as a crutch.

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There does exist a potential ontological perspective recently in the philosophical spotlight so called humor that may be worth applying to the interpretation of the text. With that, it begins to seem as if there is potential for said label to be a "joke", in that it is an act committed the said intention, eg. offhandedly in an attempt to induce laughter or lighten the situation at hand.

Honestly, I find your criticism is far more pretentious than his actual description. While I do agree that perhaps a less stereotypical choice of words could have improved his explanations there, there really isn't any sort of reason to assume that he considers himself a genius for creating music with such a perspective. I think that you'd have to be living under a rock to not realize that those ideas have been used before, given that there have been several musical movements triggered by those exact sentiments. It seems much more probably given common sense that the two elements are for the most part unrelated. It seems as if he's wondering whether or not he's successful in his execution rather than as to the integrity of his ideas.

As to the actual topic at hand I haven't listened yet but probably will soon.

imapiratearg:
I listened to one of the songs and enjoyed it.  I wouldn't call it pretentious, so much as bold.  It certainly has a very ambient sort of feel.  Atonal, but this sort of pleasant, chaotic mishmash of pretty noises.  Since I see it, you're taking an alternative approach to something that many people seem to have set ideas on, and making something that fulfills your own artistic urges rather than simply going: "Fuck theory or any of that bullshit.  It's overrated wank.  This is much better than that stuff with structure and whatnot."

sean:

--- Quote from: Be My Head on 22 Jul 2009, 14:50 ---It was all right, but you should really learn some music theory, and take lessons on your respective instruments. It WILL help you, even if your plan is to make 'unstructured' music. You have to know the rules before you can break them. Theory and technique are tools that allow you to express yourself more articulately in music.

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seriously the best way to break the rules is to understand them as best as you can. (yes there are exceptions i know shut up)

also i would not say this is pretentious in fact that is a very silly question to ask. stop reading pitchfork or something.

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