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Inglourious Basterds
scarred:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 07 Jan 2010, 21:54 ---Well it looks like we disagree. I think you know what this means.
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an honor duel?
--- Quote from: Zombiedude on 07 Jan 2010, 22:01 ---also I think planet terror was better than death proof
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Yeah I agree with this, also Death Proof was fucking terrible
KvP:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 07 Jan 2010, 21:45 ---It was fucking stale. He's rehashed so much from his past films. He's treating himself as a living legend, and the arrogance isn't endearing, it's annoying. It was predictable, it was trite, it was monotonal, but I think what got me to really hate the flick, was the obsessive self-quoting. God damn it, Quentin. God damn it.
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How'd you like that final line? Bit of a pat on one's own back.
Inlander:
I really don't get that claim and I've read it a number of times. Are we to assume then that Pitt's character is a stand-in for Tarantino throughout the film? I see absolutely nothing to support that. Every single person I've come across who's suggested that the final line is Tarantino speaking himself has been disappointed with the film, and seems to be wilfully imposing their own disapproving interpretation on a line that in any other film by any other director would almost certainly pass unnoticed and unremarked upon.
öde:
The film was alright. Plot was ok, cinematography was tasty, acting was good. The whole thing was a bit flat though, never really made me feel anything, any sympathy towards any of the characters, any concern for what happens. There were some great bits of tension though, in the first chapter and when they're meeting Von Hammersmark in the bar. I didn't really feel anything like I think I should have felt when Emmanuelle dies though. It would have been great if Tarantino had taken the film in a more serious direction, but the silliness holds up throughout which I think spoils quite a few scenes.
pilsner:
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--- Quote from: pilsner on 07 Jan 2010, 21:54 ---Well it looks like we disagree. I think you know what this means.
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an honor duel?
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I was thinking more something along these lines, but yeah, you're on the right track.
Re the final line, "I think this just might be my masterpiece," I think it had less to do with Tarantino's opinion of the movie and more him trying to piss critics off in the manner of Haneke or von Trier. The problem is Haneke and von Trier make movies which, no matter how flawed, are at least on some level serious or attempting to address a serious issue. For instance, although I hated the Funny Games remake, I hated it in a way that made me admit that Haneke was at least addressing a serious issue in a thought provoking manner. Whereas Tarantino made a live action cartoon. In my mind he hasn't earned the right to be provocative.
I get how the movie within the movie was a reference to the Kill Bill House of Blue Leaves sequence, for instance, amounting as it did to nothing more than kill shot after kill shot. The inclusion of the sequence, however, did not strike me as a meaningful attempt to address violence or war so much as the same narcissistic self-quoting that afflicted almost every aspect of the movie, from the title screens to the soundtrack to the voice over. I think what frustrated me the most about this movie was that Tarantino appears to be congratulating himself for achieving parity with a slew of legendary directors who have created significant movies when, by his own admission, he hasn't achieved at that level yet. Everyone believes he has to the potential to make a truly significant movie, on the level of Space Odyssey 2001, or Rashomon, or Annie Hall, or Wild Strawberries, or The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, etc. Perhaps Pulp Fiction was such a movie. But since Pulp Fiction, his films have been stunted by self-indulgence more and more, this one most of all.
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