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Emaline:
I saw this movie the other day, in 3d and at a fancy theater, and I have to say, I was unimpressed. It was alright. But I liked the first one better. I mean, it had Tim Curry in it(singing one of the greatest songs in my kid-life), and Robin Williams as a fucked up bat. And it had a real message. And the ending wasn't bullshit. I mean, in this one, the native creatures all except him back into their world, whereas in the original, he went back to his world and went on to tell people not to fuck up the forest. I feel like that ending was more believable, more real.





Fern Gully jokes aside, this movie was still just ok. Nothing special. Pretty Hollywood crap. The story was ok. It was very pretty. But overall, just sort of meh. I give it a C.


Plus, I read an article criticizing the fact that Sigourney Weaver's character smokes so much, and Cameron saying it was to show that she didn't care about her human body and only about her avatar body, and how this is commentary on gamers, and how they only care about their gaming avatars(which, lolz there is an Avatar game coming out. Smooth move, Cameron). Well, I call bullshit. If that is true, then there needed to be a lot more time spent exploring that. Other than a showing her interactions with the Navi and how much they mean to her, you get no real idea that she is only concerned with her avatar. Even in those instances you see that she actually cares about the Navi, which means nil about her avatar.

Ikrik:
Yeah, that whole Cameron trying to criticize gamers was really weak and pathetic on his part. He could have actually cemented it with other things, certainly things more obviously digging at the gamers.  But nope, she smokes.  I'm surprised that people still think that people smoking in movies is bad....but then Cameron replies with a statement like "oh, she smokes because she doesn't care about her bodies....like people who play videogames."  Tons of people smoke.  I don't think I personally know that many gamers who smoke.  Maybe 2 of   them.  It is funny as well, because the game he made based off the movie is called: Jame's Cameron's Avatar: The Game.  And it's apparently absolutely horrible.  Who would have thought that?

ruyi:

--- Quote from: smack that isaiah on 10 Jan 2010, 20:43 ---Also, just something I wanted to point out b/c my friends didn't notice it from the movie, the Avatars all had 5 fingers, while the Navi had 4.

--- End quote ---

I believe this was intentional, as the avatars were supposed to have DNA mixed from humans and the Na'vi.

Chesire Cat:
I think you guys are missing the point. "videogames" would be games like WoW which is often playEd to exclusion of taking care of your real life.

Inlander:
So 43 degrees Centigrade today persuaded me to go and spend two-and-a-half hours of air-conditioned bliss with Avatar. And I was pleasantly surprised! Sure there weren't any surprises in the movie at all, but it was also a pretty painless experience which is a lot more than you can say for most blockbusters these days - Cameron's included (hellooooo, Titanic). The script was tolerable largely because it was minimal - but not in the standard action movie "Arrggh! Grunt!" school of minimal scriptwriting; it's a good thing that there weren't too many words because some of them were frankly terrible (like when Blue Chicky - I don't think I ever really knew what her name was - was telling Jake about the Orange Flying Monster and telling him that its name means "Last Shadow", and Jake says: "Yeah, 'cause it's the last shadow you ever see." No shit, James Cameron, I hadn't at all worked that out by myself and I'm really glad you decided to assume that I'm an imbecile.) There was also a rather perplexing internal logic problem when Jake got lost in the forest the first time and Sigourney Weaver, et al were acting like they were never going to see him again - as we saw later in the film, the death of an avatar just means that the human wakes up rather abruptly, so what's the big deal? That avatars are pretty expensive pieces of hardware, I guess, so it's a pain in the arse to lose one? (By the way, sorry if I'm reiterating anything anyone else has said in this thread, I haven't read the whole thing because up until today I had no plans to see the film.)

But on the whole it was a pretty good film. The production design was exceptionally good, as is pretty much expected of Hollywood blockbusters these days, and frankly I thought the world was brilliantly imaginative. Visually of course everyone knows it's a knockout, and I genuinely forgot that I was watching a green-screen movie. I saw the 3D version because it was the only version screening at my local cinema, but to be honest I found the 3D distracting so I spent most of the film without the glasses on (it's not so much 3D as layers of 2D - I don't expect there are any birdwatchers on this forum but it's the same effect you get when you're looking through a pair of binoculars, and it's pretty strange). I put the 3D glasses on at select points and there were some genuinely good uses of it - most particularly when Jake and Sigourney Weaver and Other Guy are running through the forest that first time. But the 3D seemed strangely utilised: I put on the glasses in eager anticipation when Jake went to catch himself his own pet dragon because I was expecting the 3D flying effects to be jaw-dropping - but there weren't any. In fact there was barely any use of 3D in any of the aerial sequences, which struck me as utterly bizarre, especially when that first flight sequence ended, and the next scene is back in the lab and suddenly there's 3D effects out the arse. What the fuck, James Cameron?

But all in all, a very acceptable way to escape the summer heat.

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