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WCT: August 24-28, 2009

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innermoppet:

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--- Quote from: maddness on 24 Aug 2009, 06:54 ---Yeah, Faye was pretty cool in this one. It's funny how Angus played off being bothered about not being invited. 
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Given how much mockage he got from Faye for showing emotional vulnerability, it was probably a smart move on his part to pretend like it didn't bother him.

It surprised Jeph that people like Faye despite her increasingly nasty behavior and I think maybe before he knew that, he felt free to have her get meaner because he didn't really think people liked her anyway. So I wonder if he wrote this little snippet of Faye being nice, in response to the poll information. She has been increasingly unlikable in my opinion lately and this sudden attack of conscience feels forced.

It's just a thought anyway.

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nope

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Well I guess that's why they are called thoughts and not proclamations of absolute truthiness.

Random832:

--- Quote from: innermoppet on 25 Aug 2009, 06:36 ---Well I guess that's why they are called thoughts and not proclamations of absolute truthiness.
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Maybe yours aren't proclamations of absolute truthiness...

greekstreek:

--- Quote from: BigSol81 on 24 Aug 2009, 16:35 ---Angus wasn't a 'stalker'. If that's your idea of a stalker, then I'm starting to understand why so many paranoid freaks request restraining orders. Angus liked swapping wit with Faye, and it was obvious she got some enjoyment out of it too since she never called the cops on him and Dora or one of her other friends didn't pull him aside and say "Hey, you really need to back off.". Also, it was obvious later on that she was at least physically attracted to him, and it was her own ISSUES that made her tell him to fuck off.

That being said, Angus isn't a womanizer like Sven, and even if Sven is learning that his womanizing is getting old, he still has a lot of bad habits. Angus seems like a far more stand-up sort of guy, and it would do Faye good to actually have a guy that isn't just interested in sex. I'm really tired of the whole "shippers" trendy catch-phrase buzzword bullshit people use now. "Oh, you're a Marty/Dora shipper! You're a Hanners/Marigold shipper! Blah-de-blah!"

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Totally agree regarding Angus/Faye. I can't help but think that anyone who "loves Sven" and "hates Angus" is probably too immature to know better.

If you recall, Angus did NOT continue bothering Faye after she "threw him across a bar". In fact, he disappeared for a couple weeks because he got a girlfriend. That's very un-stalkerish behavior.

Stalking also implies obsession. I don't understand how Angus's cavalier attitude could be mistaken for obsessing over Faye. Furthermore, Angus has proven himself to be a pretty chill dude, hanging out and getting along with Faye's gang without completely focusing on just her. These sorts of things are not stalking and they are not "smarmy" - they happen every day and are called "making friends". The fact that she never called the cops on him, and that she now seems to LIKE him, implies that he DID read the situation right, in that she was marginally attracted to him and just being standoffish all along.

I could understand being paranoid and saying Angus is a stalker much better if the same people didn't invariably LOVE SVEN. Sven is an asshole, hands down, who over the course of just this comic strip has been responsible for more pain and suffering than I suspect Angus has EVER caused in his life.

How do these people find themselves more sympathetic to a womanizer with no principles (evidenced by his sell-out country music writing), rather than a laid-back activist who doesn't look like he could hurt a fly? I really don't get it. Do people like him ironically or something?

danman:

--- Quote from: greekstreek on 25 Aug 2009, 09:41 ---[ Do people like him ironically or something?

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LOL

Another problem with classifying him as a stalker is that obsession alone is not enough. Stalkers in general are also aggresive, (that is why restr; orders are useful) sending anonymous letters to the victim, visiting the home when she is not present, or attempting rape. while Angus does none of that.

Sven is simply a disgusting and parasitic man.

maddness:

--- Quote from: greekstreek on 25 Aug 2009, 09:41 ---If you recall, Angus did NOT continue bothering Faye after she "threw him across a bar". In fact, he disappeared for a couple weeks because he got a girlfriend. That's very un-stalkerish behavior.

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Actually, he disappeared for a bit after the tossing, but he returned eventually, he just didn't ask her out again. His recent disappearance came at one of those time jumps, so in comic time, he was gone for a a few months.

The thing is, Faye admitted to her psych that she was attracted to both Angus and Sven. She treated Sven like crap too before she started sleeping with him. Sven was coming around as much, if not more than Angus did, right before they started hooking up. The only reason people weren't calling him pathetic and a stalker was that he hadn't asked Faye out before he started hanging out with her and he was giving Faye as much of a hard time as she was giving him. If Sven had straight out asked Faye to go out with him the way that Angus did, he would have been shot down and then they'd never have hooked up because she would have been wary of him and on her guard like she is now with Angus. Sven got to her because she wasn't worried about him being interested in her and so let him get closer than she would have otherwise.


--- Quote from: greekstreek on 25 Aug 2009, 09:41 ---
I could understand being paranoid and saying Angus is a stalker much better if the same people didn't invariably LOVE SVEN. Sven is an asshole, hands down, who over the course of just this comic strip has been responsible for more pain and suffering than I suspect Angus has EVER caused in his life.

How do these people find themselves more sympathetic to a womanizer with no principles (evidenced by his sell-out country music writing), rather than a laid-back activist who doesn't look like he could hurt a fly? I really don't get it. Do people like him ironically or something?

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I like Sven as a character because he's fun and funny. He's the charming rogue. If he were a real person, and did to someone I'm close to what he did to Faye, I'd probably threaten to end him and punch him in the junk. I figure that Sven and Faye will eventually end back up together, so I don't think it would be good for Angus to get involved with her. I like Angus though and much prefer him over Sven.

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