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Is it cold in here?:
Since we've got an opinions thread going, here are mine.

It's great to have an actual conversation with Jeph about his approach to the comic.

I understand and respect the approach of keeping things fresh and discontinuing running gags before they become trite and stale.

I'm not tired of Raven and believe there's room to explore her character further with no risk of beating things into the ground.

I believe the relationship between a storyteller and an audience is paradoxical, since a skilled and creative storyteller is in the business of pleasing the audience by not giving them what they want. If the audience knew in advance what they'd enjoy, they'd write it themselves. Storytelling involves surprising the audience and presenting them with things they didn't know they wanted. Who was reading the first 500 comics and thinking "gee, what the strip really needs is a chick with OCD who will butt into Marten's business after following him around secretly"? But Jeph did it and it worked. And yet if a storyteller doesn't please the audience then they leave and he becomes a monologuer rather than a storyteller.

vettechinohio:
"I think you need to simply learn how to read. No one called QC sucky, no one was crabbing. Settle down, we can discuss the comic if we want. Go ass-kiss elsewhere."



The OP was complaining, i.e. crabbing in the previously mentioned thread, according to Jeph ("constructive criticism and complaining are not the same thing"). And another poster was crabbing that Jeph isn't like T Campbell regarding criticism and locking threads. So therefore, yes, someone was crabbing. Maybe you need a reading refresher.

I never said you can't discuss the comic. That's why we're here, obviously. But there's a difference in discussing the comic and trying to tell the creator/artist how you think he should change his world to make you happier.

I never said that anyone was saying QC was sucky. I simply said that even if I thought it was sucky, I would keep it to myself because I'm not the kind of person to tell someone how to do their job better, because that's rude.

I fail to see the need to tell me to "settle down," but my sincere thanks for the dose of patronization.

I love that, since I disagree with you, I must be kissing ass. I think a more kiss ass post would have gone "You all suck, die in a fire, I want to have Jeph's babies."

Fenriswolf:
I have no idea why people think that Jeph should spend his time reading the "constructive criticism" by unknown people in his forum. My god, everyone has opinions, and all you're doing is giving your opinion. Jeph can only write what's natural to him, so the only advice that's actually of any use is more generalised than any of the "I like x and I don't like y" critique I've heard given on here.

Frankly, if you have something you really think it worth sharing, it makes more sense to contact him personally anyway. Starting a thread to talk about it is always going to sound like moaning.

WoweeZowee:
well the thread is asking for "other reader opinions?"  not "jeph's opinions"
no one is telling him what to do
and he is blatantly free to do whatever the heck he wants, again (for the 500th time, so stop saying "jeph doesn't have to listen to you...blah blah....no shit)

...it doesn't matter whether jeph even cares or not, the thread was wondering if anyone felt similarly about the comic: missing what it used to be like. 
it's as simple as that.  if you don't miss how it used to be and are happy as a clam, i dont know why you are even posting here in the first place- there are a boatloads of other threads for you to post on where you can praise on the comic with the masses.

tinkerbell:

--- Quote from: Fenriswolf on 12 Sep 2009, 19:38 ---I have no idea why people think that Jeph should spend his time reading the "constructive criticism" by unknown people in his forum. My god, everyone has opinions, and all you're doing is giving your opinion. Jeph can only write what's natural to him, so the only advice that's actually of any use is more generalised than any of the "I like x and I don't like y" critique I've heard given on here.

Frankly, if you have something you really think it worth sharing, it makes more sense to contact him personally anyway. Starting a thread to talk about it is always going to sound like moaning.


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I applaud you!
I agree that it is no one's place but Jeph's to decide what goes in the comic and how it looks. If you do not like it, no one is forcing you to read it. That is like reading a published book and writing to the author saying you would like them to change the story particularly to suit you - IT IS MADNESS. No one comic can please anyone, and what you might not like is obviously pleasing a lot of people given how huge the fanbase is.
Yeah the focus of the comic has shifted a bit, characters have come and gone, and I love the way it has gone. I used to read Goats, but I did not like the slant where the characters went into the multiverses and the world just drastically shifted. It weirded me out, but I did not go to the forum and complain it should go back to the way it was. I just stopped reading it. Plenty of other people love it, and more power to them for understanding it.


--- Quote from: WoweeZowee on 12 Sep 2009, 23:40 ---well the thread is asking for "other reader opinions?"  not "jeph's opinions"
no one is telling him what to do
and he is blatantly free to do whatever the heck he wants, again (for the 500th time, so stop saying "jeph doesn't have to listen to you...blah blah....no shit)

...it doesn't matter whether jeph even cares or not, the thread was wondering if anyone felt similarly about the comic: missing what it used to be like. 
it's as simple as that.  if you don't miss how it used to be and are happy as a clam, i dont know why you are even posting here in the first place- there are a boatloads of other threads for you to post on where you can praise on the comic with the masses.

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By my reading they were asking for "other reader's opinions" and that does not mean that everyone who likes the current story arc is automatically excluded and those who do not like it can have their private board to complain about missing how the comic was before. Anyone can give their opinion, and many readers are of the opinion that a discussion board is not going to change the way that Jeph writes the comic because it is his decision in the end.

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