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Alex C:
In a vacuum I'd be a bigger proponent of learning for learning's sake, but when you add in the level of bureaucracy and stress that is part and parcel of the university experience I become a bit more critical of it, particularly since society does expect people to work and there's some real social consequences attached to the cost of attaining the credentials needed to do so. In all honesty, I wouldn't really be enthusiastic about my kid wanting to go to art school with the world being what it is. I also believe that it wouldn't really be my call, and that I'd wish them well, but it's not really a path I'd recommend if you have a passion for other fields. Then again, you can't always choose what you love, I guess.
SonofZ3:
--- Quote from: Drill King on 20 Oct 2009, 15:12 ---This is a subject that has come up a lot lately because people always ask me what I plan on doing WITH my Art Degree. I really dislike the idea that most people only go to university for the following reasons: Job/career, they're expected to, party, or fear of not doing it. I would elaborate on what I mean, Joe has explained most of it but there's a few other things that I think are important to bring up.
But I am just too tired from ALL THE LEARNING
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College is such a huge financial burden on most people that they (rightly) expect it to pay off monetarily down the road. Some majors appear to certain people to be less likely to afford them that monetary security, so they wonder why people choose that major. If you realize that a lot of students spend 12 YEARS paying off the debt from their schooling, you can understand why that aspect of their education is more pressing than personal growth.
calenlass:
The way universities and colleges are set up in the US, I would never want to be a career student, even if it were free. I do not want to go for a grade and a piece of paper, either, but that is what they want. Those grades and pieces of paper are apparently necessary to get a job (even unrelated to my degree, but that is a different can of worms), so I am doing that to get a job so I can pursue studies in my own fields of interest without all the administrative and bureaucratic bullshit getting in the way.
BlakeJustBlake:
--- Quote from: greenMonkey on 20 Oct 2009, 14:04 ---Dear Uni/College thread,
...rant...
Poop.
--- End quote ---
This sounds a lot like my freshman year in college, the way I have finally decided to deal with it after 3 years is to quit college.
Drill King:
--- Quote from: SonofZ3 on 20 Oct 2009, 15:56 ---
--- Quote from: Drill King on 20 Oct 2009, 15:12 ---This is a subject that has come up a lot lately because people always ask me what I plan on doing WITH my Art Degree. I really dislike the idea that most people only go to university for the following reasons: Job/career, they're expected to, party, or fear of not doing it. I would elaborate on what I mean, Joe has explained most of it but there's a few other things that I think are important to bring up.
But I am just too tired from ALL THE LEARNING
--- End quote ---
College is such a huge financial burden on most people that they (rightly) expect it to pay off monetarily down the road. Some majors appear to certain people to be less likely to afford them that monetary security, so they wonder why people choose that major. If you realize that a lot of students spend 12 YEARS paying off the debt from their schooling, you can understand why that aspect of their education is more pressing than personal growth.
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Personally I find the idea of money taking precedence over humanity/learning in any case revolting, whether it's by choice or circumstance. It's fair to want to pay off your debts(I should know, I will probably take about 25 ears), and it's fair to want a stable job, but I think that universities are too focused on the career/money aspect of education lately, it makes it very shallow. When you focus on the career/aftermath/monetary cost of your education more than actually what's going on you lose out on a lot.
This makes no sense right now, I might come back later.
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