Topic: Pokemon Gold and Silver fucking Remakes (Read 12927 times)

J-cob9000 · « **on:** 21 May 2009, 20:37 »

They're doing it. These two were the best of all the Pokemon series. After these, they began to suck.
They shall be dubbed Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver. Lame? Yes. I still love these games.

Thoughts?

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 May 2009, 20:39 »

est · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 May 2009, 22:58 »

I'd like to say "why", but I guess that they were for the GB Colour, so enough time has gone by where an enhanced revisit could be ok.

axerton · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 May 2009, 02:10 »

yeah it'll be 10 years since gold and silver by the time they're released, not that that's really an excuse. The red and blue remakes at least had the semblance of an reason because you couldn't catch all the pokemon without them. but Diamond Pearl and Platnuim have the ability (though pretty damn difficult) to catch all pokemon asside from a few legendaries by conecting with gen III games. This is just a shameless money spinner. That being said, I'll enjoy a bit of a nostalgia hit.

Yayniall · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 May 2009, 06:04 »

GSC were the most fun to play ingame (16 gym leaders ftw).
But the metagame online was ass, Curselax, Skarmbliss, Joltwak, Yawn......
Any idea if it'll play on the new engine with the physical/special split and such?

look out! Ninjas! · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 May 2009, 06:38 »

Quote from: axerton on 22 May 2009, 02:10

yeah it'll be 10 years since gold and silver by the time they're released, not that that's really an excuse. The red and blue remakes at least had the semblance of an reason because you couldn't catch all the pokemon without them. but Diamond Pearl and Platnuim have the ability (though pretty damn difficult) to catch all pokemon asside from a few legendaries by conecting with gen III games. This is just a shameless money spinner. That being said, I'll enjoy a bit of a nostalgia hit.

With the new DSI you can't use the older cartridges to get the old pokemon because there's no GBA slot.

Felrender · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 May 2009, 07:14 »

Actually, the reason they're re releasing is the same reason they re-did Red and Green. The internal battery on the cartridges has a 10 year life-span, making it impossible to save.

axerton · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 May 2009, 07:43 »

Quote from: Yayniall on 22 May 2009, 06:04

Any idea if it'll play on the new engine with the physical/special split and such?

yes, its being built with platinum's engine.

Avec · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 May 2009, 16:44 »

I still have good memories with Gold. It shouldn't phase the older gameboy players though because honestly, no one is making you buy the new ones anyway

JD · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 May 2009, 18:26 »

Silver will always be the best. Always

Felrender · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 May 2009, 20:12 »

Quote from: Zombiedude on 22 May 2009, 18:26

Silver will always be the best. Always

empty quote for truth

Yayniall · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 May 2009, 02:59 »

I got silver because I wanted Skarmory, but I love Ho-oh so much so I'll probably get foreskin gold or whatever it's called.

Melodic · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 May 2009, 11:10 »

LABIA SILVER

Avec · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 May 2009, 11:19 »

Was there a difference between the two anyway?

Dollface · « **Reply #14 on:** 23 May 2009, 11:20 »

Name?

Avec · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 May 2009, 11:24 »

I thought there was more than that.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 May 2009, 11:51 »

IIRC, it was the pokemon you could catch, like in R/B. And Silver's special ones could only be caught in the morning, while Gold's could only be caught in the evening. Might have those switched around, I learned it almost a decade ago (shit I feel old), and haven't had much reason to think of it since.

Also: I loved that special event the one where you would have to catch the best pokemon you could in a time limit in that one place and got judged on how good it was.

Yakob · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 May 2009, 16:10 »

Bug Catching Contest! Yessssss.

Quote from: Felrender on 22 May 2009, 07:14

Actually, the reason they're re releasing is the same reason they re-did Red and Green. The internal battery on the cartridges has a 10 year life-span, making it impossible to save.

I can understand that. My Silver Cartridge already went to shit and can't save.

Yaezakura · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 Sep 2009, 21:20 »

I don't know if this is considered necroing the thread... it's a few months old, but the games just recently released in Japan, and I wanted to share my opinions on it, and it seemed better to do it in this topic than making a new one. But if I was wrong, forgive me.

To be perfectly honest, I was really disappointed when I heard they were remaking Gold and Silver. In my opinion, 2nd gen suffered from some rather serious problems. The overworld design has you constantly walking in circles (such as having to pass through Ecruteak city 4-5 times during the course of the story). The difficulty progression really, really sucked. The wild Pokemon were so weak as to make leveling near impossible anywhere outside of Victory Road or Mt. Silver. I have 7 badges, yet I'm fighting Rocket Grunts that still have level 17 Zubats. I mean, I'm the champion, I go a new place to explore, and all the wild Pokemon are still level 15. Every trainer I fight except for 2 are weaker than the people I had to beat to get there. Which brings me to the third major problem. Kanto was handled horribly in G/S. All the interesting places were ripped out (every dungeon except for Rock Tunnel). The trainers offered not even a semblance of a challenge aside from Blue/Gary. It just wasn't any fun by the time you get there.

Now... the remakes addressed one of these problems, in the fact that they largely restored Kanto. Most of the dungeons are back, which is a serious plus. It means there's more to do than just go to each city and whomp the non-challenging gym leader. The other problems... not so much. Johto's overworld still sucks, and the wild Pokemon are still too weak to ever seriously train off of, which is a problem when trying to do something like train for the Elite Four challenge.

As for the entirely new additions, they're a mixed bag. Some are great, such as Johto's new customizable Safari Zone. Some are interesting and/or kinda spiffy, like the way your lead Pokemon will follow behind you while traveling. Some are just pointlessly useless, like the Arceus and Pikachu-Colored-Pichu events.

So... yeah. I'll get one, but I don't think I've ever been less excited for a Pokemon game. Which saddens me, as I really enjoyed Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.

LTK · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 Sep 2009, 04:48 »

Have you considered the possibility of yourself being higher level than the game intended you to be at that point?

Anyway, I read about the minblowing success the two games had in Japan.

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Let's put [1.5 million sales in two days] in a bit of perspective: While not quite as impressive as, say, the 2.8 million copies of Wrath of the Lich King sold in a single day, that was a worldwide launch, and there are billions of people in the world - while there are only 100 million people in Japan. Or, to look at it another way, for every person who bought the PS3 Slim in Japan last week, ten bought SoulSilver or HeartGold in just two days.

From here. And there are shortages. You could say 'Oh, those crazy Japanese and their crazy game obsession', but I honestly don't think it's that weird to like Pokemon so much.

Yaezakura · « **Reply #20 on:** 19 Sep 2009, 08:25 »

Well, unless the game expects you to beat 5 trainers in a row who have level 40-50 Pokemon when your own are still in the 30s, I don't think my level was unrealistic for fighting the Elite Four. Even if it was, if you managed to beat the Champion, no trainer in Kanto is anywhere near as challenging, except for Blue, and you don't have 4 other trainers beating you down before you reach him.

And I'm not surprised at all at the sales. Platinum had sold around 1 million units within 2 days, and it was a single title. Pokemon games are, quite simply, the best selling games in history. You can point to certain games that may sell faster on the first day, but nothing really has Pokemon's history of selling so mind-bogglingly well over the course of decade.

Catfish_Man · « **Reply #21 on:** 19 Sep 2009, 11:05 »

I played red/blue quite a bit on an emulator (including renaming my save file and opening it with the other ROM so I could swap a game back and forth between them). Nothing after those appealed that much though.

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