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KharBevNor:
But, as I said BB, in other countries people manage to get funded without having big sports teams. What you seem to be saying is that, in the US, any college that doesn't want to place an emphasis on sports, or doesn't attract people who are good at sports by devaluing their degrees to allow sports people an easy ride. Don't you think that's a fucked up system, as opposed to an advertisment for the brilliance of sports. Sports simply shouldn't have a place in something like that. Imagine if hospitals had to attract funding based on how good their basketball teams are. They have to hire doctors who aren't so good at medicine, but are so good at basketball.
BrittanyMarie is spot on! No one here really likes Hollywood or the big five, so not much point. Anyway, this is not actually a thread about me.
KickThatBathProf:
Do you actually read his posts before you respond to them? BB actually provided an example where something other than sports provided the funding for the school and in no way did he say the college system was brilliant.
Bastardous Bassist:
--- Quote from: BrittanyMarie on 03 Oct 2009, 09:51 ---I don't think Khar needs to make a thread about how he hates those things because in this forum people mostly agree with him. I don't really understand why people are saying things about that though, as even from like 2004 the dude has been incredibly consistent in his views. He probably has made posts about how terrible they are, just not an entire thread.
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And I think most people in this forum probably agree with him about sports. Well, watching sports at least. I've seen posts where somebody expresses an enjoyment of a mainstream movie or artist. Sometimes he responds, and sometimes he doesn't. The thing is, those posts are spread out around the forum where it's hard to avoid them. You'll be reading through a thread and then there is a post about somebody who likes something mainstream. The sports thread is an attempt to avoid that. Instead of spreading out the sports discussion through random posts in other threads when the topic might turn to sports, we thought we'd spare everyone else the trouble and just make a thread to get all of our sports discussion out.
Also, in terms of funding, I clearly never said it was necessary. Many colleges get along just fine without a significant sports program. Colleges don't need them, but if you had the option to make a lot more money and maybe foster some social interaction between the student body that isn't focused on parties, wouldn't you? It gives them a lot more money for merit- and need-based scholarships. It gives them a lot more of a budget for equipment and everything. I raises the value of almost every degree that institution confers. Yes, a sacrifice is made by making one degree really easy, but it's usually a degree that isn't too useful anyways. As for the hospital analogy, if I thought a hospital would be able to treat more people with better care by getting a basketball team, there is no way I could justify not doing that.
also: I had actually just clicked on this thread to see what people were saying about sports and if there were any new reasons to stay away from sports since I had been adamantly opposed to sports, and would have left quietly if I hadn't seen:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Sep 2009, 08:31 ---I hate that people want to increase sports teaching in school, to teach children to be competitive, to pick on the weak, to be elitist, rather than increase art and music teaching in school, to teach children to be creative and understanding.
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Which I knew to be a fallacy, so I pointed it out. Unfortunately, as is often the way with this forum, I got drawn into what is (for the most part) an intelligent discussion that has a good reason to exist.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: KickThatBathProf on 03 Oct 2009, 10:47 ---Do you actually read his posts before you respond to them?
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Yes. Thanks!
How is it a fallacy anyway BB? I don't remember having a discussion on that front. Why is it good to teach children to be competitive and value mindless things.
Bastardous Bassist:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 03 Oct 2009, 11:55 ---How is it a fallacy anyway BB? I don't remember having a discussion on that front. Why is it good to teach children to be competitive and value mindless things.
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That is not the fallacy. The fallacy is that music education does not teach children to be competitive. I am an extremely competitive person due to music (I couldn't stand sports in middle school, high school and college). In fact, I've not met people more competitive and elitist than people doing music in school. The elitism goes away to some degree in the professional world, but the competitiveness is even worse.
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