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Oh hey there do you have a MIDI controller and $15?

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KvP:
I didn't really start this thread to make arguments? Your first post is asking me to justify getting this as opposed to using Reason, so don't act like a dumb twat when I do exactly that. I get that you feel attached to Reason. I mean it's great that you can use Reason to the exclusion of everything else, and it's a great program, the bulk of my work comes out of it. But at this point I have enough exogenous instruments - two different Kaoss Pads, a Juno G, guitars, etc. - that Reason is only a part of what I make by necessity, and since I'm already using a dozen other different things I have no qualms about adding stuff on. It can only make my stuff sound better. Had Reason greater inclusive capabilities, ones that didn't require jury-rigging Ableton or what I have you, I'd feel more comfortable confining myself just to Reason, although it's a versatile enough program that I probably could do just that and still come out with stuff sounding decent.

And yeah, it is nice that I can start up a patch and not have it sound tinny and flat off the bat. Usually when I get one of those creative sparks there's a very limited window of opportunity for me to sit down and hash something out, and tweaking a mastering combi and reverb to get a decent sound from the start takes up a few minutes of time and I generally tend to be dissatisfied with most of what I make because I wear myself out trying to get the sounds in my head out, and the fullness of this synth is something that I can utilize to a greater extent at those times. But that's neither here nor there.

Also did you pay for your copy of Reason? Because I paid quite a bit of money for mine. I paid for all of my shit, and given that, I do think that $15 for this sort of quality software is really very attractive. But as that guy in the fourth reply stated, you don't have to pay for any software these days, and the only situation I could conceive of in which someone could get their hackles up over something with a 92% discount is if they aren't familiar with the feeling of having to pay a lot for something they really want. It's not really your place to define what is or is not wasteful spending on something like this. On the other hand, arguing about what is "necessary" with regard to making music strikes me as plainly retarded. Nobody forces you to use everything at your disposal and expanding your options can only help you. I won't discount the possibility that you could finesse these sort of sounds out of Reason if you worked at it, but you could make that argument to lots of different synths, digital and analog. But people still lust after different instruments for a reason. Usually it comes down to I liked the sound. So you know, if you don't want the program, don't buy it. If you don't think other people should buy the synth, tell them not to, and tell them to pirate Reason. I'm not going to stop you. But I'm really not interested in pursuing this bullshit argument any further.

Sox:

--- Quote from: KvP on 18 Oct 2009, 13:38 --- don't act like a dumb twat.

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It's genetic, my kids will likely be that way too. Sorry about that, but it won't change anytime soon.

I don't actually use music software for anything besides live tracking and as a drum machine. I have them on my computer as a necessity for the course I was doing at college. I meant it when I said that I had no clue what I was doing and I am far from being familiar with how to use Reason. Everything I said in that last post I was basing entirely on observations I was making as I was typing it. When I mentioned it in meebo the other day, I mentioned it as I was opening the software and checking for myself.
I ask questions not because I am a devout user of Reason, but because I genuinely have no clue

Great as technology is, I feel that people rely on it far too much. I think that having all this stuff stifles creativity, rather than fuels it. If you really feel you've taken a tool as far as you can take it, then you're lost.
I believe music requires a certain mindset. Exploring creativity isn't about having the most toys. It's about exhausting all the possibilities from the few that you have. These applications are just toys. All of them. They're all essentially the same toy, as far as I can see. What is one more toy in a sea of creative people?

That is why I don't understand. You essentially lost me at the word "midi controller" and I began to understand even less from there. I didn't come here to shit up your thread. I didn't come here to talk anybody out of anything. I certainly didn't come here to insult you or argue with you. I doubt my opinions on music software is going to impact anybody's decision to buy this, so I feel okay bringing them in here.
I want to have a discussion. To talk about the impact of tools on creativity. I want to have that discussion without the other person getting offended, too. Perhaps you are not that person.

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