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Stryc9Fuego:
NECROPOSTAN!

I'm planning on rolling up a Warforged Monk. I'm wondering if Healer's Friend and Monk Improved Recovery stack. Had anyone tried this?

Bastardous Bassist:

--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 26 Oct 2009, 19:58 ---Probably a lot sooner, and I'm sure that wizards and sorcerers get various mind control and stuns much sooner as well. If the monks are anything like the 3.5 monks, they sound really cool, but all of their cool abilities rely on different things, so they are stretched too far, and the abilities that would be good enough to focus on are limited heavily, since someone decided it would be overpowered to have them more than once a day, but gave identical abilities as spells to wizards, sorcerers, clerics, and druids.

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That's because monks were unstoppable in 3.0 (to the point where I know a lot of DM's who would not allow monks), and they overcompensated a bit in 3.5.

Alex C:
Nerfing monks was excruciatingly dumb, and I honestly never had any issue with one in 3.0. I mean, yeah, they compared more favorably to fighters/rogues/barbarians back then, but holy hell, what didn't? The 3.5 nerf was the result of the same kind of magical thinking that leads to people calling Warlocks OP while thinking wizards are OK where they're at due to having few hitpoints.

Nodaisho:
Because when you can always act first, stop time and get in five rounds worth of world-shattering spells before your opponent can act, your hit points are not very important. Some people fail to understand that.

Bastardous Bassist:
I'd say wizards didn't get good until they started getting about fifth level spells.  I mean, fireball is awesome and all, but it's usually not that useful unless you're in a wide open space.  Fourth level spells end up being almost completely useless.  Plus, wizards have to rest after pretty much any encounter because they don't have enough spells to go more than two.  Of course, once they get into the teens, they're unstoppable even 1 on 1, as long as they only have to do one fight at a time.

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