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scarred:
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--- Quote ---All of the fuss over Harry Potter gave me the shits but I think Twilight is actually harmful to society, so it inspires more than the usual vitriol.
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Please. Twilight's as harmful to society as Harry Potter, Jane Eyre, Transformers, or Star Wars.
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This article does a pretty stellar job of explaining just why the Twilight series is detrimental to society.
Choice excerpts:
--- Quote ---Bella spends the rest of the book going crazy, imagining Edward's voice and partaking in ever more self-destructive activities. During this time she befriends Jacob Black, who turns out to be a werewolf but is still way better for her than Edward. She finally regains Edward's attention after she deliberately jumps off a cliff and almost dies. Edward, being a thirteen-year-old girl, thinks Bella has died and goes to Italy to commit suicide. He attempts to do this by exposing himself to the sun at noon in an Italian town. Since sunlight doesn't actually harm Twilight vampires, one must assume that Edward is hoping some macho Italians will see him in at full sparkle and beat him to death for being gay.
Bella teams up with Edward's sister Alice, who turns out to be straight and taken but is still way better for her than Edward, to rescue her ex from his emoness. After a crazy mix up that finds Bella and Edward temporarily in an Anne Rice novel, Edward reaccepts her.
This novel thus teaches two important lessons to young girls everywhere:
1) If a guy dumps you and says he doesn't love you anymore, he doesn't mean it. All you have to do is beg and destroy your life to prove that you really love him, and he'll come right back and love you even more!
2) It is perfectly cool to string along innocent but decent guys who are crushing on you and then dump them immediately as soon as your ex-boyfriend reappears, and totally normal if said ex-boyfriend forbids you from seeing your old friend. After all, your love for your ex must be far stronger, because he makes you feel 'alive' and 'dangerous' since he's always on the verge of killing you. And stalking you. We can't really mention that enough.
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--- Quote ---The plot revolves around a villain from the first book, who is stalking Bella. But this is just a background to the real plot, which is about Edward stalking Bella. The book focuses on the choice Bella must make between Jacob Black and Edward Cullen, two tall, good-looking, devoted men with cool supernatural abilities. This is exactly the kind of problem that normal women face every day.
Halfway through, Stephenie Meyer realizes that Jacob Black is far cooler than Edward and performs a quick character assassination by having him mouth-rape her. Bella punches him and runs away, but later discovers she loves him, which teaches us more lessons:
1) If a girl says she doesn't love you, just keep sexually assaulting her. Eventually she'll realize she likes it.
2) Leading two guys on for years because you 'love them both' is perfectly acceptable, as long as you feel really bad about it at some point.
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--- Quote ---Right before they have sex, Meyer remembers that she's writing out her fantasies for an audience now, and so she abruptly pulls a PG-13 "fade-to-black", disappointing any male Twilight fans who were hoping for a closer look at Edward.
When Bella wakes up, she is covered in feathers because the sex was so rough and passionate that Edward bit a pillow. Then Edward points out that Bella is covered in bruises. She brushes off his concern and then the two of them whine about how unhappy they are now because they've made each other unhappy by being unhappy, and then we kind of stopped reading for a couple of minutes. But we learned a few more things:
1) It doesn't matter if he hurts you
2) He only did it because he loves you.
Excluding all the questionable sex, you might start to think that maybe this book isn't an entirely bad influence on teenage girls, with its 'don't go to bed with anyone unless he has proven that he loves you' message. And then Stephenie Meyer takes that trust, uses it to get your address and credit card numbers, and then breaks into your house and poisons your dog.
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scarred:
Agatha Christie books aren't targeted at tweens.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: Jeans on 02 Dec 2009, 00:03 ---Man, that is some bull shit. After reading a book, most people do not go on to lead their life as if they were the lead character of the book. Those are good arguments when discussing Twilight as a literary work (and possibly when discussing the mind of Stephanie Meyer), but I think calling the books "detrimental to society" is way harsh. In this way you could argue that Agatha Christie novels are detrimental to society because it presents murder as an upper-class puzzle game.
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That's rather different though, since that aspect of the books isn't practical to emulate. Even if you did decide to be like Poirot people are unlikely to start mysteriously dying every time you go on holiday and attempts to involve yourself in any cases that do arise will be quashed due to your unfortunate lack of an international reputation as a Belgian super-sleuth with a superb moustache. If a murder investigation was something people were very likely to find themselves in without warning then Agathe Christie might have been remiss to suggest there will always be enough evidence to identify the murderer and they'll be certain to fall for the trap you lay to force them into giving themselves away and never, ever bump you off at the first available opportunity.
BeoPuppy:
--- Quote from: Jeans on 02 Dec 2009, 00:03 ---Man, that is some bull shit. After reading a book, most people do not go on to lead their life as if they were the lead character of the book.
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You are forgetting that children are stupid.
David_Dovey:
Large amounts of people aren't creepily obsessed with Agatha Christie books (as far as I know), either.
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