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Industrial and Post-Industrial music.
rynne:
As far as proto-industrial goes, I like Cromagnon, whose one album from 1968 seems to prefigure everything from Throbbing Gristle to Einstürzende Neubauten to Coil even though, both sonically and thematically. To my knowledge, though, the only direct influence they seem to have was making enough impression on Steven Stapleton to get on the NWW list.
Ritual Feast of the Libido
Toth, Scribe I
Personally, I need to consume more current-generation industrial. I still love the stuff the old-guard folks like C93 and NWW continue to put out, but I don't really know too much about who's pushing the musical boundaries in 2009 like those guys did in the early 80s (excepting current musicians who collaborate with the 1st generation groups---Andrew Liles, irr.app.(ext.), etc). Khar, who'd you say are good recent industrial bands?
KvP:
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 13 Dec 2009, 04:06 ---On-topic, was Ministry industrial? I was under the impression that they were, but they don't sound like what you linked as being industrial.
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Ministry started off as a New Romantic band (opened for The Culture Club on tour), then became post-industrial in the Skinny Puppy vein (though they were better at it than Skinny Puppy), then became industrial rock with Land of Rape and Honey, then took on thrash elements with Psalm 69, then became narced-out sludge for a good decade, then became industrial rock again with Animositisomina, then lost Paul Barker and went full-on thrash until they quit. Personally I prefer their post-industrial phase, though the New Romantic stuff is underrated.
Mr. Doctor:
--- Quote from: KvP on 12 Dec 2009, 21:09 --- GODFLESH
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Oh yeah, Gotta love Godflesh, specially Streetcleaner
You breed! Like Rats!
--- Quote from: Nodaisho on 13 Dec 2009, 04:06 ---On-topic, was Ministry industrial?
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They are industrial[Rock] imo and also flirted with metal a lot of times. Their last albums were very metal [and there were some big thrash influence in the last albums but I still hear a little of industrial here and there but not too much]...
I know that this isn't the best argument, but all the people I know and even those that has been into music longer than twice my age say that Ministry [at least the stuff like "The Mind..."] is obviously industrial.
Gotta love this song live
--- Quote from: KvP on 13 Dec 2009, 12:35 ---and went full-on thrash until they quit.
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I don't think it is "full-on" thrash since there's still this industrial vibe going on. But yeah, the last albums are still very very thrashy [but very good too!]
KvP:
As far as recent industrial goes Thighpaulsandra is pretty much the only youngish dude I can think of (he's probably not even that young) who's still keeping on with late 70's-early 80's industrial. He's really fucking good at it too. Was part of Spiritualized until last year, and was as an integral part of Coil in the 00's. Look at this bitch -
Like all good industrial artists, he believes in the magic power of gay sex.
tricia kidd:
ironically, one of the best bands doing old-style industrial sounds remotely recently is Tarentel, who used to sound like Generic Mogwai Influenced Band #12 (hey, it was only 2000).
check their '04 album We Move Through Water and the Paper White/Big Black Circle EPs. one might argue they're more "music concréte" but that's splitting hairs.
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