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RallyMonkey:
When it comes to characterization, I think it's really a matter of length. Christopher Nolan is able to write great characters. All of the actors are able to portray a good amount of depth in their characterization. But the movie already runs near the three hour mark. I can't think of a single scene that I would want to be taken out of the film, so to really add any deeper characterization, you'd have to make a long movie much longer. When it's a choice between an excellent movie with some shallow characters that can also make a lot of bucks at the box office and give studios incentive to start making large budget original films again, or have an excellent movie with deep characters that runs so long you'd only be able to show it three times a day and have it bomb at the box office, I'd take the shallow characters.

Be My Head:
I lol'd hearing some guy talk about how complicated it was in the movie theatre lobby.

"and like, you get it for a second, then it starts to not make sense, then you kinda get it again"

How is this movie "complicated" at all? I've been hearing the same thing from other people.

One thing that was a plot hole: If "real life" events such as movement and noise affect your dream, why do they only affect one *level* of the dream? That just makes no sense whatsoever. The entire thing is a fucking dream, so you hearing music or whatever in real life should affect the whole dream!

october1983:
It does affect all levels, but with each subsequent level it becomes less pronounced. So as the van falls from the bridge, in Arthur's dream there is zero-gravity, whereas in Eames' snow fortress dream within that, there are avalanches. Similarly, when the chemist starts playing music to Authur, everyone in Eames' dream can vaguely hear some music in the "distance".

Be My Head:
Fair enough, I didn't notice that.

Nodaisho:
The ending really reminded me of Stalker's ending. You know, the somewhat-ambiguous, but when you think about it, one of them makes a lot more sense than the other type of ending? For comparison (Stalker spoilers here), in Stalker, the stalker's daughter possibly telekinetically pushes glasses off of the table, or it is possibly a train that runs right by their house causing them to fall off. Except that a train wouldn't move one glass at a time, and they start moving before the train comes close enough to shake the house (as I recall, I can't find a clip of that part right now). In Inception, the top spins for quite a while without tipping, but near the end the base starts to wobble like before it falls over (we haven't seen that particular one fall over, but we all have spun tops as a kid, right? They do the same thing). On top of that, the kids are older and their clothes are slightly different.

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