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StaedlerMars:
Yeah I've been watching this, been meaning to boost this thread.

I haven't seen episode 9 yet, but episode 8 was really well done. Just the whole life on two sides of the war, he comes back, and it's obvious that he's such an inspiration, and *spoiler* blam.

It gets the message of "island hopping campaign was hell" across so well, when I watched episode 7 I was absolutely baffled. That was the one where they were attacking the mountains, after having tackled the airfield on Peleliu, and they follow the stretcher being carried to the front. It's just shocking.

I want to say that the writers of the show have no mercy on their characters killing them left and right, but then your remember that it's all based on true stories. There is no real heroism here, it's just all dirty, gritty, and really really messy. "unflinching and confronting" is a really good way of putting this.

Nodaisho:
I've been watching it, but some of it just annoys me. It is covering a period from Guadalcanal to presumably VJ day, about three years. Band of Brothers covered less than a year except for Currahee, and those 9 episodes after Currahee are longer in runtime than the entire series of The Pacific. And there was less introduction in each episode of Band of Brothers. They don't have enough time to cover everything as well as they should, they shoved all of Iwo Jima into 15 minutes.

The Australia episode was also terrible. You know that Greek girl that the entire episode focuses on? She didn't exist. She was made up for the series. There was plenty of stuff going on in Australia, there was no reason to make something up.

Believe it or not, they are actually selling Basilone short on his actions. Remember that battle where he was hip-firing the machine gun on Guadalcanal? That was a three day battle in reality, at one point only two of the men with him were still able to fight. The guy was basically Rambo with smaller pecs and shorter hair. Rambo was basically Basilone with bigger pecs, longer hair, and a thicker accent. But if they showed what he actually did, people would insist that they were exaggerating.

satsugaikaze:

--- Quote from: Inlander on 11 May 2010, 07:30 ---Unfortunately, it's been pretty badly received in Australia, in no small part because Channel 7, which screens it here, has absolutely butchered it, cramming each episode full of ad-breaks and covering great swathes of the screen while the show is on with ads for upcoming shows and lottery results, and continuously trying to appeal to cheap jingoistic nationalism, going so far as to subtitle the series as "the Battle for Australia", which is patently absurd. What they've done to the show is practically criminal, but regretably that's the level to which commercial television in Australia has sunk.

--- End quote ---

To put it lightly Channel 7 are the biggest load of fuckheads amongst the Big Three

I hardly followed it and caught wind of it when they were advertising it as the "Battle for Australia". I thought they'd actually planned to involve Australians in it, but apparently it was just a front to get the Australians to watch it. It's not actually a bad series - my bro says it looks cheap - but I don't think that's an issue and it's engrossing enough for me to believe all of the depressing shit that happens in the series.
Channel 7 used to be a pretty cool network, but now it's just a steaming pile of shit that predominantly sells on American comedies and 'dramas'. At least Channel Ten had the good sense to use smarter imports. =/

Kokoda still stands out for me as the best WW2 Pacific-themed piece of film., though. It was a fantastic movie that heaped on so much of the psychological stuff (eg. the soldier randomly pulled from the mud that was so thick that during the half-minute shot of the track you couldn't even see him lying there face-down. )
And the scene where one guy hides under a giant fallen tree for a couple hours to evade a particular Japanese patrol and when he climbs out there's a Japanese soldier who's been waiting there the entire time on top of the tree and he bayonets him through the face

Inlander:
I've watched one episode on Channel 7, and the rest I've downloaded. Quite frankly, when viewed without ad breaks and without Channel 7's vandalism it's a completely different show. It really annoys me that most people in Australia will have experienced the show only through the shit-brown filter of Channel 7's telecast.

Alex C:
The freakiest thing about what Basilone did is the simple fact that the Medal of Honor recipients list is basically a compilation of fairly comparable stories. Like Alejandro Ruiz, for example. His unit was pinned down by a pillbox, so he charged through the machine gun fire and grenade blasts and managed to get on top of the pillbox only to find his rifle had jammed. So after beating the shit out of a guy with his (nearly) useless weapon, he ran all the way back through the gunfire, got another gun, ran back and proceeded to kill 12 people.

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