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scarred:
I'm not a fan of Gaga's music really, but her stage persona and the way she's gained her significant following would qualify as "interesting," I think. "Exciting?" "Riveting?" Maybe not. But "interesting"? Well, we're talking about her (and this isn't the first discussion we've had on the matter, by a long shot).
De_El:
--- Quote from: Professor Snuggles on 24 Nov 2010, 07:26 ---Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.
That said the album is like, aight on first listen.
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Yeah but like, Gaga broke in 2008, right? Her reign in pop is in full swing. We are in the midst of the Gaga Dynasty. I'm thinking of who's coming next to get her. Kanye I don't really know what to do with. He's pop because he's huge but ostensibly still a rapper of some kind. He definitely is starting to trade in nonsensical combinations of grandiose imagery which speaks to his success and his understanding of pastiche, but I dunno if he quite fits. Katy Perry's such a cartoon as to be practically blank. I couldn't tell you anything about her. Katy Perry? Who's Katy Perry? The brunette with the giant eyes and giant boobs? What tricks does she do?
Nicki, unlike Perry has fucking chops. She outshines everyone she guests for. In my head, 'Lil Freak,' 'Get It All,' 'Letting Go,' 'Bottoms Up' and 'Knockout' are all Nicki songs. Monster is different because there are so many guests. She's a great female rapper with a playful pop sensibility and American pop has been pretty fucking slim on women rappers for a while now.
Marupinku:
--- Quote from: De_El on 22 Nov 2010, 19:40 ---I've never cared about a Kanye album before and I kind of like this one.
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Yeah, basically this. Don't really having any opinion on any Kanye album before this one, and this one is pretty ok. Not something that I'm amazed with, but it's better than his previous work.
As far as 2010 stuff goes, I still haven't heard anything that's topped The Gentlemen's Butcher.
JD:
--- Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 24 Nov 2010, 08:32 ---
--- Quote from: Professor Snuggles on 24 Nov 2010, 08:09 ---I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?
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The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd. She's all gimmick, a clever hack whose managed to convince millions that crazy hats and lots of eye shadow are somehow the same thing as musical ability or talent in general. She's interesting only insofar as she's a great case study in the power of marketing and the willingness of the American public to rush to worship at whatever kitschy, overrated altar of hype is currently being called The Next Big Thing regardless of any actual merit. Her music is tired, derivative. It pushes no boundaries despite the bewildering arguments to the contrary. Even her outfits, while certainly weird, are often little more than garish Halloween costumes, rife for parody and fully deserving of it. She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.
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At least she isn't a "look how fucking sexy I am" kinda pop artist, like that katy perry bullshit.
Nodaisho:
Look at how weird I am and how much makeup I can have put on me is much better.
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