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a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: Inlander on 11 Jan 2010, 06:10 ---3) Holy shit, paternalism! What, are African musicians just simple folk who are predisposed to go starry-eyed and start lining up to be exploited the moment a rich white man appears on the scene?
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Considering conditions in South Africa at the time the working situation for musicians would have been problematic to say the least. Arguing that people with very limited options living under an oppressive regime could easily be exploited by a wealthy outsider isn't necessarily paternalistic, since it isn't necessarily saying they didn't know what was going on.
That said, I'd never actually heard these allegations before now. Is the suggestion that the artists that worked on Graceland weren't paid the kind of wages session musicians would have received in Europe or North America or that they should have received royalties that weren't forthcoming?
TheFuriousWombat:
--- Quote from: KaosPilot on 11 Jan 2010, 04:50 --- I'd love it if Joanna Newsom released something this year as well.
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Yeah this'd be awesome, especially considering how immensely great Ys was. She's touring in March so I'd like to assume that means she's beginning to promote soon-to-be-released new material.
Inlander:
--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 11 Jan 2010, 08:00 ---I'd never actually heard these allegations before now. Is the suggestion that the artists that worked on Graceland weren't paid the kind of wages session musicians would have received in Europe or North America or that they should have received royalties that weren't forthcoming?
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I can't claim to be an expert about this particular topic, but from footage I've seen of Simon in confrontation with people, and from what I've read and also heard first-hand from friends of my mother's, the allegation seems to have been not so much financial as artistic: Simon, it was alleged, took advantage of these African musicians to boost his own profile and claim all the work as his own. Which is why it strikes me as paternalistic, because it supposes that the African musicians weren't taking advantage of the opportunities offered by working Paul Simon just as much as he was taking advantage of their musical skills to make his album.
Scandanavian War Machine:
all I really want is a new Man Man record.
other bands can suck it in 2010!
Koremora:
2009 ruled, and 2010 is looking to be even better for music. No idea what you guys are on about.
Thirded on "Fuck you I like that Vampire Weekend album". Also, Heartland, Teen Dream, and the new Spoon record are fantastic. Looking forward to new Eluvium, Efterklang, Liars, Jonsi solo album, Four Tet, and many more. SO EXCITED.
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