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better than Sunn 0)))
KharBevNor:
I don't see how you can doubt the artistry of this.
As for outdoor use, I can easily see why that would be rejected (apart from the fact this is a piece done especially for an exhibition, and was obviously designed for the space).
First there is practicality. Guitars aren't waterproof. Amps aren't waterproof. Power would have to be supplied. A generator would interfere with the sound. The area would have to be fenced off to avoid vandalism (not to mention possible electrocution). It would have to be curated, and finally birds in a natural environment would probably spend more time in trees.
Second there is purity of concept. How would you integrate this piece into the natural evironment? How would it change?
The use of a domesticated bird species cannot be accidental. This is a installation, designed to be experienced in a space, in a gallery. That creates a certain fabric of expectations and so forth. Using domestic birds in a caged environment evokes the concept of imprisonment, of music as spectacle, romantic ideas of the singing bird in the cage, rockstars as painted sogbirds, etc. Al so the gallery space provides the artist with total aesthetic control. In many ways designing conceptual art can be like scientific experiments. You've got to control the variables. If you're already incorporating one aleatoric element you don't want to incorporate too many more, or the work becomes muddled. You have to remember that the audiences subjective experience is also largely out of your control, though clever use of context can help here. When you place works, especially kinetic works, outside, unless they are engineered on a monumental scale, or with monumetal materials, the work almost inevitably picks up a suggestion of dealing with entropy and decay that you may not want to tackle.
The video is only a brochure or advert remember, not the work itself. Installations rarely translate well into other media.
a pack of wolves:
I think another problem with introducing it into a field is that it could seem like the artist was attempting to disguise their control of the situation. Since that wouldn't be effective the aspect of playing with the rhythms of everyday life would probably come out more forcefully by introducing a comparatively uncontrolled element, living birds, to the gallery space than by putting the piece out in a field. Since it's a space where you expect the artist/curator to have control an aspect that will be inevitably somewhat chaotic makes more impact.
David_Dovey:
I thought this thread was going to be about \\\Maytag
KvP:
Isn't the whole point of Sunn 0))) their live shows? I know a couple of people who had conversion experiences at their live show.
Besides that, Southern Lord's a pretty good label.
David_Dovey:
Oh yeah the fuckwit who wrote this post is in no way representative of my views (or the site, for that matter. Dude's a notorious troll that the site owners let run the site for a day). The one time I saw Sunn O))) (w/ Boris, no less!) I very nearly excavated my bowels. I had earplugs in and my ears still rang for a day later. Also I was right near the smoke machine. Woo.
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