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David_Dovey:
Youtube would be an obvious exception were it not for the Youtube app which comes standard on every iPhone and iPod Touch. I can't imagine that they'd ditch it on the iPad, but I've seen no evidence either way. Anybody is welcome to clear that up for me.
est:
The main thing I'd want in flash is about a gazillion free flash games on places like Kongregate and Armor Games and such, which is one of the reasons why it'll probably never happen due to it providing direct competition to game apps, most of which look like direct conversions from existing free flash games. If they came out and said that there was no way to lock flash down to ensure that their app developers got a good return on their development time, and to ensure that people couldn't get exploits via flash insecurities then I'd respect the decision a bit more. However, all I hear (and mostly from Apple fans, rather than from Apple itself) is that flash is a dying platform and html5 is coming and blah blah blah. This for the last few years, when flash has been something that has been fuelling fun on the web during that time.
I mean, I have an iPhone now and I'm really enjoying it. But when Flash 10.1 hits Windows Mobile devices I'll still download a shitload of games onto my HD2 and play them, because free games are fucking tops.
est:
Oh hey, actually : http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/02/01/steve_jobs_disparages_google_adobe_at_company_meeting_reports.html
So yeah ok, Steve Jobs is directly saying he don't like flash & that it causes a lot of crashes, despite it never really causing me much grief ever. That is the attitude I dislike in this situation. Just come out and say that flash doesn't fit in with your content policy. People won't care, and people like me would respect you for telling the fucking truth.
edit: another article with pretty much the same info rephrased here: http://www.tgdaily.com/consumer-electronics-features/48263-jobs-blames-adobe-flash-for-crashing-macs
I find it pretty interesting that there is this direct attack on flash only a few days after one of the major complaints about the iPad was that it didn't support flash. I find it pretty interesting that he says "Apple doesn't support flash" when their macs support flash just fine. I find it pretty interesting that the iPhone obviously does support flash played through some sort of app as a translator like the Youtube app when there is enough of a demand for it and when it can't be used to damage their own little content delivery ecosystem.
I hope enough people can read between the lines on their own when they see this shit, because he's really cranking that FUD-handle like it's going out of style.
Sox:
--- Quote from: Alex C on 28 Jan 2010, 12:16 ---I have to agree with Jhocking, it really loses a lot in the embiggening process. If someone had told me that picture Tommy posted was just some shopped joke, I would have believed them because it just seems silly blown up that big.
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I have no idea why you think this, it's a perfectly cromulent device.
jhocking:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 01 Feb 2010, 19:03 ---A: I can not think of one single website which I use regularly which utilises Flash in any meaningful way. Fuck Flash, the sooner it disappears the better.
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Y'know, while I certainly disagree with the "fuck Flash" sentiment (after all http://www.newarteest.com/flash/flash.html ) I can't think of many websites making good use of Flash either. There's Hulu, and the gazillion Flash games est referred to, and... yeah I'm drawing a blank. Mostly you see Flash used for animated ads, and that's hardly a good use.
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