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Well, Desmond didn't come back last season, did he? I don't remember him coming back. And Farriday went kind of mad and wasn't really that important to begin with, I think. So hopefully Desmond is happily off with Penny instead of being wrapped up in this.
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But why was he on the plane and where did he then go?!
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I really don't remember whether or not he was on the plane. If he was on it, well, who knows where he is, because they haven't shown him since the last plane crashed.
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Desmond was in the first half of last season a lot and showed up mysteriously on the alternate Oceanic 815 at the beginning of this one. He's not gone or forgotten.
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Imdb has him in Lost for 2010. I remain cautiously optimistic.
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I think it's pretty obvious that he'll be involved. They wouldn't have had him in the first episode if he wasn't going to come back in some way later on.
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Yup, Desmond was def on the plane in the flash sideways.  The character is clearly important to the narrative, and not just because of the oops-I-didn't-push-the-button plane crash thingie, and the earth-shattering kaboom (TM) that blew the hatch.  I don't think he's a "Candidate," but they kind of have to address the whole time travel thing.  I'm hoping he'll get an ep that focuses on him, similar to The Constant, and if they do that, they may bring Faraday in at that point -- well, unless he was never conceived in the flash sideways . . .

Anyway, I'm looking forward to next week, when we'll discover that Richard has been Batmanuel this whole time.
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I would watch the fuck out of a show that was Miles and Sawyer as cops fightin' crime.
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I smell a spin-off...
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I'd watch it.
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So, hey.

That last episode.

Answers. Jacob. Esau. Nestor Carbonell m-fin' rocking the house.

Good times.
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They ain't dead!

Oh wait, they are!

They aren't! But they are standing on hell's doorstep!
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Man when Richard started saying that I was silently praying that he meant something else.

He didn't, but he was still wrong, so that was cool.
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Soooo last episode was yet another one that could have been tightened up significantly, defluffed and filled with more substance/answers. I mean we basically knew everything that was "revealed" (Richard didn't age b/c of Jacob, Jacob was there to keep to the man in black from getting into the wider world, man in black needed someone else to kill Jacob, the candidates were there to see who could replace Jacob if and when that happened, Richard was Jacob's emissary to facilitate this process and so on). The only new stuff was the minor details i.e. when Richard got to the island (we already basically knew it was on the Black Rock, had for a while), that Richard was first approached by the man in black (and who cares, nothing came of it and he backed out of his decision to go over to him last episode making it even less relevant), aaaand....that might be it. I liked the episode but I'm really wondering if the writers are ever going to stop wasting huge amounts of time this season.
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Well, there was the whole 'this is why we're actually on this island' bit?
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But we already knew that from a few episodes back when the whole candidate thing was explained, right?
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No I mean the "the island is the gateway to hell thing". The whole cork in the wine bottle majig.
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The "Hell" thing was Richard going a little nuts, it's not actually that. Plus we already knew the cork in the bottle I feel like. Or it was obvious if not explicitly stated before. After all, we did know already that Man in Black wanted to leave more than anything and that Jacob was keeping him on the island. Since it's pretty obvious Man in Black is both super powerful and very evil, the "keeping the wine in the jug with a cork" metaphor was a cool way of letting us know that what we've all be thinking for a pretty good amount of time is correct. I dunno, somehow doesn't seem like a substantially new answer to me.
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I thought Jacob confirmed that they were in fact standing on the doorstep of hell? Did I misinterpret that? Yeah, it confirmed the whole Man in Black is trying to get off the island theory we all had, but any confirmation is nice. At least they're starting to wrap stuff up.
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I'm pretty sure he was being metaphorical.
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I enjoyed last week's episode with Desmond (FINALLY!) and how this parallel thing is working. It's cool that even though things are completely different because of their not being on the island, everyone is still connected and can sense it. And this week - Libby! Who may be crazy, but I doubt it. I hope Hurley gets a memory jumpstart soon. Edit: And he did! I guess Desmond is going to go around and make sure people experience this.

Edit edit: And Locke, who is finally happy, got run over by Desmond why?...
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My god this was a bad episode
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Edit edit: And Locke, who is finally happy, got run over by Desmond why?...

I want to say his connection thingy with someone else is with his father, and this relates to the whole getting pushed out a window thing.  It's either that or having a near death experience and finding the one thing/person that truly matters to you as both Charlie and Desmond had.
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I think it's the latter. His "memories" need to be triggered by something akin to being pushed out a window of a highrise and running him over with a car might just do the trick. Obviously Desmond knows somehow that everyone needs to "remember" the island for whatever reason. But it's not like they can go back, the whole thing is at the bottom of the ocean...
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or a couple of feet below it anyway. wild gamble that it means Locke is going to be able to walk again?
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Well, earlier in the season Jack did tell him to come visit him, so my guess is they'll meet in the hospital and Jack will do something while he's trying to save Locke that helps him walk again.
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Necroed to give a nice big shout out to Lost and its writers now that the show has been wrapped.

Fuck you, you fucking fucks.
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Nah, it was awesome. It wasn't what anybody really wanted it to be, for sure, but it was the only fitting end.
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I have never in my life watched more than possibly ten minutes of one episode of this show, and listening to or reading people talk about it is frankly surreal. One of my favourite Lost-related memories is overhearing someone saying "Well, of COURSE they were smugglers, how else did the polar bear get there?!" and having no idea what they were talking about. And now I do!

Speaking theoretically, as I can't see myself having any time until at least 2013, should I watch this show right through? Is it worth the investment?
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Based on the last five hours of my life, yes. So much yes.
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I liked the finale as a whole, it was about as fitting an end as any for the show, but seriously it would've been nicer if it wasn't specially tailored for Maximum Commercial Breaks
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I kinda feel like the ending was a bit of a cop-out. They ended the flash-sideways neatly, but they really didn't answer many questions or wrap up the real story line at all. Yeah I cried my eyes out for the last ten minutes of the show, but it just sort of... ended.

I am not sure what to think.
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after reading a dozen internet summaries of the end i'm glad i never watched more than a couple hours of this show. i mean it'd be a great concept, if the writers had bothered to think of that ending from the beginning. but they didn't, so, respect lost.

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They definitely tried to hide the fact that there was zero continuity throughout the show by making the ending "profound" which in reality was a concept most people laughed at when we all thought of it in season 1.
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I was disappointed by the fact that they didn't explain the ghosts thing. Which might have explained why Walt and Michael weren't in the alternate universe.

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Much as I like cats, I don't think that video has encouraged me to watch the series.
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But didn't Michael die in the explosion of the ship?

I kinda feel like the ending was a bit of a cop-out. They ended the flash-sideways neatly, but they really didn't answer many questions or wrap up the real story line at all. Yeah I cried my eyes out for the last ten minutes of the show, but it just sort of... ended.

I am not sure what to think.

This. I don't feel like any questions except those from the sideways were answered.

Also I still want a Miles/Sawyer cop show spin off. It would be the best show.
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Oh hey, in previous seasons they seemed to make a big deal about Walt in the flashbacks, like he was some sort of Significant Dude.  Then he was never heard from again

Not in a sinister way, though.  I think he just went to live with his grandma or something

I would've liked Michael in Walt to be in the rest of the show, but oh well what can you do
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As far as I can tell, Walt was the only real ball-drop by the writers because they somehow didn't consider that the kid would hit puberty and wouldn't age within the shows continuity. But it's OK, it's not important.
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They really pushed towards Walt being psychic and having influence on things with the island, and it really seems to me that after about season 3 they had no idea how to tie anything together. Season 6 made it very apparent that they were faced with too many storylines to knit and decided to angle it as "alternate universe is purgatorial and you all found each other in the afterlife and can happily remember the island." Really, it just felt like an easy out by saying that all of the events and intrigue and mysteries unsolved don't matter since everyone dies.
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Fuck the haters who gonna hate.

Loved the finale. Cop out? I guess. Whatever. It was satisfying and enjoyable.
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But didn't Michael die in the explosion of the ship?

He did, but then he appeared to Hurley as a dead person on the Island. Like beat mouse said, it kind of feels like explained that away with the whole 'it's purgatory'.
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I started my relationship with lost about a year ago and finally finished up. I'm pretty satisfied with how things turned out. I think Michael Emerson is the best thing to happen to television in the past several years and I found myself getting teary a few times without fully understanding why.

Yeah, there's lots of questions that didn't get answered, but I honestly kind of like it that way. In life there's never going to come a point where you're seated and told why everything happened the way it did.

Going into the show I had a lot of people tell me that Jack/Matthew Fox sucked. Can anybody explain why people said this? He didn't always have the best dialogue to work with, but when they actually gave him good writing I thought he consistently hit it out of the park. The ending with him on the island was beautiful.
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I like how one of the potential endings everybody thought was stupid 5 or 6 years ago is now good.
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Not the same ending. The island wasn't purgatory and I'm not sure why people keep saying that. Everything that happened for 6 years was real and not explained away with "they were dead."

The flash-sideways was a sort of purgatory thing, but it was also just an epilogue. A nice little happy ending that we got to watch for the entire season.
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I mean I get that the timeline split when the bomb went off and the flash-sideways was the purgatory after that, but all the same, I'll echo the complaints that a lot of other people had, in that the ending was sufficient for that timeline but left the Island part of it (ie the interesting part) high and dry. As it stands it's sort of a late-period Stephen King ending. Which I'm generally okay with, I just think it's sort of a waste of the interesting setting.

I'd welcome a spinoff, but not a TV spinoff, and probably not a film spinoff either. Novelizations or comix would be good.

Wonder what the creators have up their sleeve for their next show.
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I honestly don't know why people think Jack would suck. When it comes down to things, he is a little me me why me sometimes, but if I were in his shoes, I'd probably react the same way. But as an actor, I think he did really well with Lost. All of the actors did.

Thinking about it more, I guess I am ok with having some questions about the island left unanswered and I can deal with the cast being dead. They all found each other (minus Michael and Walt, but I think that's mostly due to Walt being to old to fit in the sideways properly and I guess because Michael being stuck undead like on the island) and they're all happy in the afterlife. They all definitely did not die at the same time (such as characters who died throughout the series and Hurley and Ben obviously being on the island for quite a while after the others escaped and Jack died), so the island is definitely not purgatory and that makes me happier. The sideways being some afterlife thing is just fine, but I am glad that the island itself is still a bit of a mystery.

A Sawyer/Miles comic would be good too. Maybe nedroid could take up the case...
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I still want Sawyer and Miles to get a spin-off buddy cop show. I would watch it until the end of time.
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