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KvP:
If Alpha Centauri is available for Mac, get that.

Otherwise Civ 4's okay. I stand by Civ 2, though. The music, and the civ advisors, has never been better. Every civ game (minus Alpha Centauri, I think) has had a weird, sort of annoying design flaw in its combat. Lately they've all made turtling super powerful.

David_Dovey:
Are there better history-based strategy games out there (real-time or turn-based?). Age of Empires? Total War?

KvP:
Depends on what you're looking for. In terms of war, Europa Universalis 3 is super, super dense but very thorough and realistic. In terms of ease of use and accessibility, and to some degree flexibility in how you play, Civ is up there.

Spluff:
Total War is a lot of fun, even if the 4X side is lacking.

David_Dovey:
I figure a name like "total war" probably gives that away pretty early though. Yeah, I like the idea of all the 4X stuff. I guess I'll give Civ4 a try.

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