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Weekly comic thread, March 29 - April 2 2010

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zacha:

--- Quote from: akronnick on 29 Mar 2010, 01:16 ---Also, 2nd page of WCT an hour after Monday's comic was posted, when was the last time that happened?

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I _think_ the faye-sven arc beat that, many times over... ah, good times.

bhtooefr:
There really wasn't a good way for Angus to let her down any more easily ESPECIALLY given his state, that wouldn't have resulted in her thinking, "wait, that means there's still a chance," and things going into creepy stalker mode.

I've got personal experience with that. That is, on Marigold's side of the situation (although mine was slightly different, in that the interest went both ways, but she didn't want to leave who she was with to do it.) And trying NOT to go into creepy stalker mode, while still staying friends, and still trying to capitalize on what seemed like a chance. Literally drove me insane.

To the point that last time I was rejected by a friend, I actually asked her try to be careful to not flirt with me, in case I think it's a chance, just so I can keep my sanity.

Odin:

--- Quote from: michi-love on 29 Mar 2010, 07:24 ---*snip*

On another note: I personally would not play WoW if you paid me to do it. However, I have always, and will likely always, love anime. Along this line, it's rather shitty of you to make such generalizations.
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I should note that I make a distinction between Anime and Animu that is different from most other definitions. The first is usually pretty decent entertainment, the second is the horrifyingly embarassing shit like "yaoi" and tentacle rape whorehouses and the like.


--- Quote ---Yes, Marigold is based on a generalization, but she is moving beyond that with each strip. She's growing and changing, and revealing parts of her nature that hadn't been assumed before, much like all the characters, and saying that were she a man, her character would receive endless mocking.
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Marigold is doing absolutely nothing that without it being forced upon her by some of the other characters. No "growth" or branching out without somebody else dragging her along for the ride.


--- Quote ---do you think that if Sven was a woman, everyone on the board wouldn't moan about how much of a slut she was? Because, despite any notions you have about this board only disparaging males, it's my belief that they are universally disparaging - the only difference hinging on what the topic of the comic is each day/week.

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Please post where I have said that the board only disparages males. Never mind that I'm also pretty sure people were calling Sven a whore in past threads discussing him (a fair few results in searches, but the way the search works I can't link the results page for you), so I'm not sure what point you're actually making here.

imaginaryideals:

--- Quote from: reicreature on 29 Mar 2010, 00:23 ---Awww Poor Marigold. I feel so bad for her even though I knew it was sort of inevitable.

You know, Sven plays WoW...
What!? It might happen. She helps him Level; He helps her unlock some real life achievements.


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I'm glad I'm not the only one who at some point thought Sven+Marigold. Although that came more out of "Huh, which of Jeph's characters isn't hooked up with someone currently?" logic. (Cause come on, a lot of romance based stories end up throwing in extra people so no one is left out in the cold, and pairing up people randomly just cause they're the odd ones out!)

When Marigold was first introduced I really thought she and Angus were related somehow, like cousins or something. He treats her like a little sister. This is about the outcome I expected. Jeph knows his characters well.

Moxie:

--- Quote from: Carl-E on 29 Mar 2010, 00:52 ---
--- Quote from: tomart on 29 Mar 2010, 00:41 ---
--- Quote from: Moxie on 29 Mar 2010, 00:10 ---Uncalled for, Momo. Would you rather he lied to Marigold?
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YES!!!!!!!  Play along, let her down easy, have some shred of compassion, you know how fragile she is........
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No.  Never.  Stupidest.  Move.  EVER.
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I think these answer this the best:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? ---Playing along really would be betraying her trust.
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--- Quote from: LeeC ---I think betrayal of her trust would have been sleeping with her then rejecting her the next morning.  What he did is precisely the white knight type of thing to do.  Just because your the white knight doesnt mean your every girl's knight in shining armor, to come galloping in and sweep them off their feet.  He was open and honest on how he felt there relationship is.  The truth sometimes hurt.  But marigold needs to learn from this and start branching out.  She kind of attached herself to the only single guy she knows. not to get all nautical and cheesy but there are plenty of other fish in the sea.
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And I think this:

--- Quote from: erikotaku ---Angus could have been much gentler with her.  He could've easily made a BS excuse (not a lie), about the fact that his judgement is impaired and that they should slow it down for the moment.  Something like that.  Its like telling a person that one of their loved ones died by just saying "Your (i.e.)brother died" instead of leading them up to it....But I digress.  He still should've eased Marigold into that.
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Is best answered by this:

--- Quote from: akronnick ---There was no posible way for Angus to spare Marigolds feelings that she would not have been able to misinterpret.

He told her, honestly and directly, the truth, even if it might have hurt her feelings......My point is, Angus wouldn't be doing Marigold any favors by not letting her off the hook right away. If he had rebuffed her advances with an excuse like "we're too drunk" or something, Marigold may have thought that she still had a chance under other circumstances.
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In other words, Angus is human. He has just been startled out of a drunken state with a kiss from a girl he only wants to be friends with. The girl is drunk, and at first not listening to him anyway ("I think we're more than that...")  He reacted pretty well, I thought. He didn't make any thoughtless comments like he has in the past. Sure, he doesn't want to hurt her feelings, but if it's something he doesn't want, he absolutely needs to let her know up front. Anything else could be considered leading her on. And that would most likely give people here even more fodder to dislike him. I think his reaction is the best it could possibly be, given the circumstances.
(Also, by treating Marigold as "fragile", as if she were made of glass, she will never learn to toughen her skin a bit, and to understand that sometimes things in life happen that are not what you want, but you still have to find a way to cope with them. Sheltering a person is only detrimental to the person in the end.)

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