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Alien: Prequelification
Ozymandias:
Ridley Scott now says these prequels will not feature any Xenomorphs.
So...that's a thing...
KvP:
I don't know. Part of it might be all the reading I did around the Alien "universe" when Obsidian Entertainment was still making an RPG around the property, but I think there's plenty of stuff in the Alien setting if you remove the xenomorph from the picture. The first film (and the sequels to a lesser extent with each iteration) is almost in the tradition of classic horror (well, zombie apocalypse horror at least) in that the monster is almost incidental. It turns out that the real villain of the story is The Company. Alien has a really great setting, which is something that not a lot of people acknowledge. Though there were dystopic futures in a lot of sci-fi films of the 70's, like Logan's Run, but Alien was pretty significant in that it wasn't really all that futuristic. It was grimy and brutal and industrial, and its vision of an all-encompassing corporatist (non-)state was fairly compelling. Alien is a space film in which the crew of the ship aren't highly trained military officers or intrepid explorers but blue-collar mopes working in shit conditions for measly pay.
Anyway, do you have a link to that statement? What I had read was that Scott was not a fan of the (fairly significant) changes the design of the xenomorph had gone through over the years and that he wanted to revise it, possibly with HR Giger's help. This article at least indicates that facehuggers will be involved.
scarred:
link.
i think i'm ok with this.
J:
--- Quote from: scarred on 27 Apr 2010, 15:50 ---did i accidentally imply that i didn't like the starship troopers movie? that was not my intent. i love that movie.
but still:
--- Quote from: Alex C on 27 Apr 2010, 14:21 ---He admitted straight out that he never finished the Starship Troopers novel and that what he did read made him bored and depressed.
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i'm not sure i understand your defense. if he hated the source material, then he should have picked a different project. hell, the only reason he probably kept the name "starship troopers" was because of the heinlein association (aka: the $$). he could've released his movie under a different title and nobody would've noticed. the fact remains that starship troopers (the film) is extremely different both thematically and in plot compared to starship troopers (the book).
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--- Quote from: Kugai on 27 Apr 2010, 17:48 ---I still want Verhoven flogged in Public Square for that butchery of Heinlein's classic.
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it's cute that you guys think anyone involved had much of a choice.
--- Quote from: Wikipedia ---There are many differences between the original book and film. A report in an American Cinematographer article states that the Heinlein novel was optioned well into the pre-production period of the film, which had a working title of Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine; most of the writing team reportedly were unaware of the novel at the time. According to the DVD commentary, Paul Verhoeven never finished reading the novel, claiming he read through the first few chapters and became both "bored and depressed."[3]
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anyway, look at it this way, you're already pretty deep into the making of a vampire movie and suddenly the producers drop the latest twilight book into your lap and tell you that this is the movie now. what are you going to do about it.
option1: you suck it up and do what you're told
option2: you walk away from the project and maybe get your self a reputation for unprofessionalism and unreliability
option3: you get subversive and decide to make a parody of the book where the relationships are overtly codependent and abusive, the vampires are manipulative parasites, and the humans are all under some sort of emo mindcontroll. you can take this turd and via abit of scatological judo use it to pull a big ass prank on all the little twilight fangirls of the world who are going to flock to see this no matter what.
Orbert:
--- Quote from: KvP on 28 Apr 2010, 00:00 ---Alien was pretty significant in that it wasn't really all that futuristic. It was grimy and brutal and industrial, and its vision of an all-encompassing corporatist (non-)state was fairly compelling. Alien is a space film in which the crew of the ship aren't highly trained military officers or intrepid explorers but blue-collar mopes working in shit conditions for measly pay.
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That was one of my favorite aspects of the movie. I love the way Parker keeps trying to bring up "the bonus situation".
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