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"3D movies are a waste of a dimension."
Alex C:
Plus, he actually does go out there and call the Titanic 3-D thing what it is: a cash grab.
RallyMonkey:
I'm glad that Ebert could finally find a way to put into words how I've felt about this for the last few years. I've always hated the advent of 3D films, and what it might mean for the future of the film industry. But every time someone made a comparison to talkies, or technicolor, I could never come up with a good retort for how I felt that didn't have me coming off like the people who said sound in films would never take off. But now Ebert is able to formulate the real difference.
We see in color, we hear things, we see in three dimensions. This should be the same for our movies. But with technicolor and sound, we're not trying to trick our brains into accepting these things as reality. It is reality, the colors are really there, the sounds are really being made. But with 3D, it's all just a trick. We're already creating the depth in our head in the same process we always do. We don't really see in three dimensions, we take the two dimensional image we perceive and add depth to it. That's exactly what happens when we watch a 2D film, and 3D is just a gimmick, trying to mess with your brain, not recreate an experience that is missing with film currently.
When technology gets to the point where we can have holographic films, that is something I will fully endorse. But I'm not going to pay twice the money for a gimmick.
Lines:
--- Quote from: Emaline on 30 Apr 2010, 23:15 ---Something somewhat new is shitty, big surprise! But people keep using it because it is a new, and exciting technology with a hopefully bright future ahead of it. We aren't gonna get to good great fantastic uses of 3D unless we keep using it. I did not like the movie Avatar. BUT I will say that I thought the 3D was really nicely done. I look forward to seeing something do better than that.
Also, I just started reading the article. How is 3D "unsuitable for grown-up films of any seriousness"? I mean, shit. Can we talk about Amelie in 3d? Or The Fountain? Or any Aronofsky film, for that matter. Or any film involving the sea, or outer space? These would be fantastic in 3D.
Also, "What would Fargo gain in 3-D?" Awesomeness, thats what! People being killed with Axes IN 3D! Body in a wood chipper IN 3D!
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I think my biggest problem with 3D is some parts are blurry, which really messes with my head and, other than the glasses, are part of what causes my headaches. I don't think it's shitty, but I doubt I'll be seeing many 3D movies until they fix this problem. I don't like having to take off the glasses and pop some tylenol halfway through a movie. It does not make an enjoyable experience. The reason Avatar looked so great in 3D was because it was filmed in 3D. Also it was mostly computer generated, which seems to make the process a bit easier. But really, it's still pretty stunning in 2D.
Amelie and The Fountain are visually stunning as is. But I don't want them in 3D. It'll mess up the color, which is the strongest visual element in both films. (Also The Fountain was terrible, so I'm not watching it again regardless.) And again, it will look odd since neither were filmed in 3D.
--- Quote from: RallyMonkey on 01 May 2010, 02:11 ---When technology gets to the point where we can have holographic films, that is something I will fully endorse. But I'm not going to pay twice the money for a gimmick.
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This.
knives:
I think 3-d can be pulled off well, anyone who's seen Morrisey's Frankenstein knows exactly what I mean, but as Scorsese said somewhere I'm too lazy to look up it is usually far too taxing on the director. With the teck they have to think in an other dimension and will be spread to thin in most cases.
Emaline:
--- Quote from: Linds on 01 May 2010, 06:53 ---I think my biggest problem with 3D is some parts are blurry, which really messes with my head and, other than the glasses, are part of what causes my headaches. I don't think it's shitty, but I doubt I'll be seeing many 3D movies until they fix this problem. I don't like having to take off the glasses and pop some tylenol halfway through a movie. It does not make an enjoyable experience. The reason Avatar looked so great in 3D was because it was filmed in 3D. Also it was mostly computer generated, which seems to make the process a bit easier. But really, it's still pretty stunning in 2D.
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But these are problems that should be fixable. And they can only be fixed when their is more pressure for 3D to be better, which won't happen unless more people are using it.
--- Quote ---Amelie and The Fountain are visually stunning as is. But I don't want them in 3D. It'll mess up the color, which is the strongest visual element in both films. (Also The Fountain was terrible, so I'm not watching it again regardless.) And again, it will look odd since neither were filmed in 3D.
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I'm not saying that now they'd look great. I'm saying if these films were filmed in 3D they'd be stunning. I'm staying that it is not impossible to imagine 3D used for artsy films, or "grown up" films to be in 3D. I just feel like Ebert saying that is kinda bullshit because it could happen.
--- Quote from: RallyMonkey on 01 May 2010, 02:11 ---When technology gets to the point where we can have holographic films, that is something I will fully endorse. But I'm not going to pay twice the money for a gimmick.
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This.
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And thats all cool and understandable. And when they start making those and the first few tries aren't fantastic, are you gonna complain? I mean, yeah, 3D right now isn't where it could and should be, but it has some pretty great potential. And to discredit it because right now it isn't going what you want is kinda crappy. I mean, if I completely stopped going to the movies because 90% of films released are crap, I'd miss out on some pretty great things. If you just stopped watching movies altogether, just because some are crap, you'd miss some great advancements.
I'm not saying you should run off and watch every 3D film you can, and live with a constant headache. I'm just saying give it time, and don't discredit it right away.
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