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WCT (Weekly Comic Thread) May 31-June 4, 2010 (1676-1680)
Dliessmgg:
--- Quote from: Moxie on 04 Jun 2010, 01:44 ---Did anyone call a possible Marigold/Dale hookup?
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Hmm... would that be Dalegold or Maridale? :angel:
snubnose:
--- Quote from: Heranje on 04 Jun 2010, 02:17 ---
--- Quote from: brew on 04 Jun 2010, 01:54 ---why is marigold such a racist
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She's not racist, she's faction-ist. Also apparently class-ist. If she was racist, she'd be yelling at him for playing a human/gnome/elf/dwarf/whatever those other races they added after I quit playing are, not Alliance as a whole.
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Racists are people who have prejudices on other people, based on things like their religion, the amount of melanine in their skin, their gender, and other really stupid outer criteria that say nothing about the person themselves in such a general way.
So yeah, if you take her reason serious, she's a racist. Inventing new names for it like "factionist" or "sexist" etc doesnt change the fact those are just variants of the more general term racist.
But I just cant take the reason "That person plays the opposing faction in a game, so I dont like it" serious, so I cant call Marigold a racist. She's simply being stupid.
Heranje:
--- Quote from: snubnose on 04 Jun 2010, 03:01 ---
--- Quote from: Heranje on 04 Jun 2010, 02:17 ---
--- Quote from: brew on 04 Jun 2010, 01:54 ---why is marigold such a racist
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She's not racist, she's faction-ist. Also apparently class-ist. If she was racist, she'd be yelling at him for playing a human/gnome/elf/dwarf/whatever those other races they added after I quit playing are, not Alliance as a whole.
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Racists are people who have prejudices on other people, based on things like their religion, the amount of melanine in their skin, their gender, and other really stupid outer criteria that say nothing about the person themselves in such a general way.
So yeah, if you take her reason serious, she's a racist. Inventing new names for it like "factionist" or "sexist" etc doesnt change the fact those are just variants of the more general term racist.
But I just cant take the reason "That person plays the opposing faction in a game, so I dont like it" serious, so I cant call Marigold a racist. She's simply being stupid.
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...no. Not at all. A racist is someone who has prejudices to other people based on RACE. Hence the word "racist". If the prejudice is based on something else, it's called prejudice, or there is another word for it, like "sexism". The fact that you think "racist" is a general term opposed to "variants" like sexist is really entertaining, especially since when I wrote that previous post I was one inch away from ranting about how annoying it is when people misuse "racism" to mean general prejudice. It makes them (and you) sound very stupid.
Here, have a dictionary definition, courtesy of dictionary.reference.com (emphasis is my own):
rac·ism
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
As you see, racism means prejudice based on race. Prejudice based on other factors is called other things, like sexism. As for Marigold being stupid for using WoW factions to decide whether she likes or dislikes someone - of course she is. But that doesn't mean she's a racist. She's prejudiced.
Akima:
--- Quote from: snubnose on 04 Jun 2010, 03:01 ---Racists are people who have prejudices on other people, based on things like their religion, the amount of melanine in their skin, their gender, and other really stupid outer criteria that say nothing about the person themselves in such a general way.
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No. I sympathise, because I'm ESL too, but not all forms of prejudice are racism. When someone calls me a "sl*pe", "g**k or "ch*nk" because I'm East Asian, they're racist. If someone gets in my face because because I follow the "wrong" religion, they're a religious bigot but not necessarily racist. If someone decides that, because I'm female, I should be excluded from a field of employment, or not promoted, or paid less than a man for the same work, they're sexist and probably male chauvinist, but not necessarily racist. Some people are "package deal" bigots, some restrict it to a selection from the vast menu of things on which people judge, and base discrimination against, other people.
I'm pretty sure a few dark spots of bigotry disfigure even the noblest characters, and worst of all are the prejudices of which we might not be aware because they're ubiquitous in the social sea in which we swim. Marigold's distaste for Alliance WoW players (I don't play MMORPGs so I have no idea what that's about), is more down at the level of sports-team chauvinism, with all the "trash talking" that goes with it. Which is pretty silly. Just like arguing on web-comic forums... :angel:
Heranje:
--- Quote from: Akima on 04 Jun 2010, 04:53 ---
--- Quote from: snubnose on 04 Jun 2010, 03:01 ---Racists are people who have prejudices on other people, based on things like their religion, the amount of melanine in their skin, their gender, and other really stupid outer criteria that say nothing about the person themselves in such a general way.
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No. I sympathise, because I'm ESL too
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I also speak English as a second language. :P Misuse of the word "racist" still annoys me, but that may be because the Norwegian word for it is exactly the same, but with an s instead of a c, and it's misused in exactly the same way here.
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