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What is Marigold's fundamental character?

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idontunderstand:
And she can always kill everybody if she grows tired of it.

Is it cold in here?:
She doesn't know what to do outside it. She told Momo that she doesn't know how to talk to people.

TRVA123:

--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 19 Sep 2011, 11:58 ---I dislike the categories of "introvert" and "extrovert". I find it creates an us-and-them mentality and turns people into labels. ...... The most objective definition is that an introvert finds socialising draining.

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I also dislike these categories, as they imply exclusivity, an introvert must be this stereotype, an extrovert must be this other stereotype, and never the twain shall meet.
I find that most people have introvert and extrovert tendencies, to different extents.... the old bell curve. I would be an introvert, by definition, because I have a need for time alone to recharge, rest, and introspect. However I am not a shy person; I enjoy social events, such as parties, and I also have fair people skills. I just don't want to be around people 24/7.

I've seen a couple of articles about introverts vs extroverts floating about the internet lately, and I'm disappointed by their content. They often paint introverts as oppressed, socially awkward people who channel the energy that they would otherwise spend socializing into work or learning. The articles paint extroverts as dumb partiers who put introverts down for not wanting to socialize.

John_Knee:

--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 19 Sep 2011, 11:58 ---I dislike the categories of "introvert" and "extrovert". I find it creates an us-and-them mentality and turns people into labels. There are lots of different reasons why a person might not be very social. The most objective definition is that an introvert finds socialising draining. But still, what the hell does that say about a person? They may only be exposed to annoying people, or not be interested in a certain type of activity, or just have such poor social skills that talking to people is a major challenge.

Until Marigold meets people who share her interests, do the same things as her (or expands her interests and activities she enjoys) and improves her social skills to the extent that she could be prom queen, we won't know if she's a shut-in by choice. I somehow doubt she is though.

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You probably dislike the categories of introvert and extrovert because you seem to associate negative attributes to the terms rather than accept people tend to lean in one direction or the other and both have their strengths and weaknesses in different circumstances. There is a sliding scale in terms of how intro/extro-verted someone is and no one is purely one or the other. Most people, regardless of their leaning, are sufficently close to the middle that they might feel uncomfortable in some situations, but are mentally able to cope. Additionally the social environment might pull someone closer to the middle - for example, an introverted person who works in an office will learn how to behave and how to communicate in that situation. Likewise, an extrovert might need to do the same thing depending on if the office is open plan and relaxed or a more serious one where people talk less - except in the staff kitchen areas.

Your definition that "the most objective definition is that an introvert finds socialising draining" is woefully wide of the mark. All people regardless of their intro/extro-vertedness need time out at times. An introvert is oten more than happy to spend time entertaining themselves (reading a book, watching a film, whatever) and don't need a lot of people and background noise to feel comfortable.

NotAwesomeAnymore:
I have no hard feelings or negative associations, so I apologise for coming off like that. I dislike it because it's like classifying creatures under "land animals" and "sea animals". Giving something a classification needs to be the result of a well thought out process, so you don't end up with "a sliding scale" and "partial introverts" (who might be completely different).

I did just remember something useful about it though. I read a study somewhere about the thinking patterns of self-identified introverts and extroverts. It found that "introverts" generate ideas and solutions more effectively alone, while "extroverts" do that more effectively when with others. Basically, according to their fancy neurology, a portion of brains in the population function in quiet, while the other portion functions in noise.

I usually sit in group brainstorming sessions without anything to say feeling all inadequate, then I come home and think of great ideas and want to kick myself. So that was interesting to learn. But then "the brain which functions in quiet" has to be the only definition of 'introvert', and personal generalisations shouldn't be made from it without scientific correlation etc. etc.

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