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The Quadrennial Global Round-Ball Extravaganza
WestEnder67:
Sunday will be an amazing day of football.
England v Germany in the afternoon, Argentina v Mexico in the evening.
Definitely a day for the pub.
scarred:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Jun 2010, 10:59 ---I'm only being on topic. Jesus.
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why would you ever be on topic in this forum
that's just not how these things work
KharBevNor:
I see your point, Wolves. I don't particularly agree with that article at all. I don't know if it's always obvious when I'm joking. However, I would note that you keep talking about all these great clubs owned by their supporters or whatever (most of which seem to be pretty minor league?) yet you're still watching the world cup. Isn't that kind of like wearing a Poison Girls shirt to a Spice Girls gig?
I have never actually in this thread said all football was bad, all sport was bad, football should be banned, etc. I've just said the world cup is a mega-capitalist nationalist dickwagging contest, that the way it is celebrated is disquietingly close to fascist aesthetics, and that it and other sports competitions on the same scale, particularly the olympics, come almost pre-packaged with abuses of human rights and civil liberties which are never properly called to account because they are sacred cows which no one has the balls to touch.
Of course sport or music or any other liesure activity is not inherently bad, but its modes of production and distribution can be. I'd say that high level football is pretty fucked up, same with a lot of other big sports. The big clubs are cynical money-making machines. Same with most of the music industry, probably to a deeper level than in sport. Same with the vast bulk, economically speaking, of the movie industry. And the publishing industry. And so on. There is a distinct difference between the will of the people, shallow populism, and laying back and begging capitalism to shit down your neck.
Alex C:
Whether sport or music has the worst set of corrupt apparatus surrounding it really depends on how wide of a net you want to cast, but my money is on sport. PEDs/disregard for safety, organized crime & gambling, and some third world farm systems make for an unholy mess sometimes. There's obviously a lot of good things about sport, but when you add in money, corruption and pride, you sometimes end up with shit like the Andrés Escobar murder. And as Khar pointed out, just because something is fine in principle doesn't mean we should ignore it when some fuckwits go and stick their dicks in it.
Aurjay:
to kinda give credit to you argument there was a special on Current TV's Vanguard about Africa's "lost boys". it was a good documentary
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/92495403_soccers-lost-boys.htm
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