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[Alex C]

I'd rather have a well-designed main character than 20 different varieties bleh. That's why it always kinda bummed me out that with ME I had to choose between worse voice acting or worse character models. Vanderloo clone Shep's  design isn't exactly inspired, but they clearly put some work into it and the shaved head let them handily sidestep some of their weaknesses.

[KvP]

Rumors abound (from Gamestar or somesuch site) that DA:2 will see the removal of the PC top-down view. It wasn't in the 360 version of DA:O and I never played with it but as you could probably expect, there is much gnashing of teeth and tearing of clothes and grim pronouncements.

In more positive news, rogues are apparently getting a redesign so they're not so much 3.5 D&D-ish (that is, fighters with lower chance to hit but better special attacks) and there will apparently be party interjection in dialogue to a greater extent than they've had since KOTOR day.

[johnny5]

this sucks, they should have taken the class/race differences thing and ran with it. in origins, it started off really in your face but as the game went on, it kinda didnt matter as much. i need to finish that game i guess, i got all the way to landsmeet then had to leave the country*, and when i got back my roommate returned it. good roommate i guess. anyway i did really enjoy choosing my starting storyline, but the combat did suck. mages were probably the best.

also more sex please




(*had a FBI search warrant out for me)

[KvP]

Those last two standalone lines don't really go well together, just putting it out there.

[KvP]

lawl.

and they're retconning qunari to look more like ogres, I see.

Also notice how the human female looks suggestively amorous while the other females don't.

[JD]

What is up with human female's legs?

Does she have Rickets?

[KvP]

Why are all of the women except the Qunari on tip-toes?

[Cire27]

The dwarf isn't.  It's because they're barefoot I'm guessing?

[Alex C]

I think the simplest explanation is that your average fantasy game artist probably loses the ability to draw women standing normally well before they have the opportunity to draw someone who isn't wearing costume heels and absurdly impractical armor.

[est]

I see that their "different standards of beauty" all include large norks and rock-hard muscles.  Top notch.

[JD]

I wonder if this means we'll be able to bang a Qunari

[look out! Ninjas!]

Extrapolating from Mass Effect 2, yes.

[Johnny C]

i think you can see the elf's package

[Tom]

and they're retconning qunari to look more like ogres, I see.

I'm not sure about the horns and overall design but I do appreciate the attempt to make them a more visually distinct race.

[Ozymandias]

I would bang that dwarf chick so hard.

[JD]

and they're retconning qunari to look more like ogres, I see.

I'm not sure about the horns and overall design but I do appreciate the attempt to make them a more visually distinct race.

They should make them in to unicorn people.

[Tom]

???

[JD]

You hit the nail on the head.

[KvP]

I see that their "different standards of beauty" all include large norks and rock-hard muscles.  Top notch.

Also, hourglass figures.

[FIXDIX]

I have to say I kinda liked the long armed female dwarves in DA:O. Weirdly sexy.

I hope there's a reason that the female human is the only one with a tattoo. And a facial one at that.

[Blue Kitty]

I would bang that dwarf chick so hard.

[Johnny C]

I would bang that dwarf chick so hard.

DEBRAAAAA

[Sorflakne]

Eh, as long as it's better than Awakening.  Awakening's one saving grace was Oghren and Anders (too lazy to check spelling) constantly going back and forth at each other, because it reminded me of how my best friend and I argue over whether melee or magic/range is better (except I'm the tall one and he's the short one lol). 

And Oghren has the best lines in the game, but that's another matter entirely.





And here's to hoping mages aren't stupidly overpowered again in DA 2.

[Alex C]

I rather liked most of the NPCs. Leliana was the only one I'd say I disliked. I even have a grudging regard for Zevran, and I've never liked elves. He and Oghren had some good exchanges, even if a dwarf berserker and elven assassin is kinda cliched. DA isn't my favorite game by a long shot, but I'll take more of 'em.

[Tom]

Zevran was so annoying, why did the male bi character have to be Euro-trash.

[Alex C]

He was annoying at times, yeah, but he had just enough barely decent conversations where I consider him a net plus during my "smart ass warden" run, even if I usually punted his ass to the camp never to be heard from again in the rest of my games. Unfortunately, I also don't always feel as annoyed as I should at the short stick gays and bisexuals get in video games and culture at large as far as characterizations go. It does seem that if you're bisexual that the media will portray you as a slutty and helpless while secretly craving the stability of a relationship if you're a woman and as a greasy eurotrash lounge lizard if you're male. I try to be proactive about such things but sometimes I just don't really viscerally  reject these things as strongly as my voting habits would imply. Stupid privilege. Anyway, it's not like I think Bioware was malicious or anything, and Leliana had her shit together for the most part even if I have a tough time not just saying "Nah, it's alright crazy lady" every time she talks about the Maker.

[Johnny C]

Zevran was so annoying, why did the male bi character have to be Euro-trash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvBg0es44ws

[johnny5]

Those last two standalone lines don't really go well together, just putting it out there.

the last sentence was a footnote

but the more sex part, maybe i could have been more clear. i meant i want more fucking penetration in the game. i wore out every ho in that whore house and i banged a few of my teammates but i'd like to just be able to bugger any person off the dirtpath

[Cire27]

Go play a Leisure Suit Larry game?

[Ozymandias]

First Trailer- No Gameplay Footage

[Tom]

My inner 14yo is so fucking stoked.

[Alex C]

Just putting this here because the DA:O thread is pretty well dead these days.

I've been playing DA again, and man, I forgot how much I love Dog. I understand why so many people think he's kinda crappy-- it's tough to argue with the "Shale, 2-3 Mages or maybe a Rogue" power gamer crowd if you want to talk pure efficiency and spike damage-- but on the other hand, holy shit is Dog fast. He's a perfect companion for a lazy gamer like me. I just set up his tactics so that he Overwhelms an enemy mage straight away and then just runs down anything that attacks my PC (a rogue this time around-- I felt like doing a pretty basic human PC/Alistair/Morrigan/Dog run). This usually results in one dead mage VERY quickly followed by Dog rounding up all the archers so they drop their bows and start wimpily hacking away at him. It's even better when he then runs off to rejoin the melee scrum (again, automatic, because he's set to assist the PC and Alistair). The archers sometimes chase him for a bit but they cannot catch him, because again, holy shit, is Dog fast. It makes me feel sorta bad for Dog because he gets hated on sometimes and the internets isn't very good at quantifying anything but DPS and his raw skirmishing speed isn't something that you can just math out easy. Fights take a bit longer than with some of my old power gamey groups, but with Dog around I'm pretty sure I'm actually doing a lot less clicking just because he is so good at running around and pulling the faces off of ranged attackers.

[Tom]

The mod that lets you have both 3 companions and your dog is definitely a favourite of mine.

[Alex C]

That does sound kinda nice, since honestly I think the best argument against Dog is that he isn't exactly chatty during quests. From a game balance point of view I'd actually be willing to argue that for newbies at least he's no worse than using Sten since the only way to really use 2 handers correctly is to sit there and babysit them so they drop a special attack in between the deadspace in their auto attack animations.

[KvP]

Spoilers for DA1 follow!

So for all of us who thought that Morrigan's child would be some sort of setup for a sequel... Surprise! It's DLC!

With this and Fallout 3 I'm wondering if we won't see more endgame decisions being parceled out on a pay-per-view basis.

The dreaded Archdemon has been slain and the advance of the darkspawn halted by a lone, heroic Grey Warden. The kingdom rejoices, but at least one question remains: what happened to Morrigan? The sorceress joined the Wardens cause, but it is said her true purpose was not revealed until the eve of the last battle. She vanished into the shadows, and while rumors claimed she crossed over the mountains into Orlais no trace of her path could be found. She was never heard from again... until now. Nearly a year has passed since the Archdemon's death, and word has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden. She has been sighted in the southern wilderness where she was first encountered. Is it truly her? If it is, then why is she here and what secret does she carry with her? The Warden heads into the forest to find out and tie up this last loose end once and for all.

Key Features:
• Confront Morrigan in this dramatic conclusion to the Origins storyline
• Earn powerful rewards that transfer into your Awakening and Origins campaign
• Import your character from Origins or Awakening or create a new, high-level hero!

"dramatic conclusion" = Decide if you want to kill Morrigan.

[Tom]

Several real torrents (PC version) are up now for your sampling pleasure. I intend to give it a go with my rogue when it finishes downloading later this morning.

[Johnny C]

i hope they make you decide if you want to kill your character's kid

[est]

First Trailer- No Gameplay Footage

I was really hoping the ugly horned dude killed the heroic guy, showing that you can be who you want and can play how you want.  Instead we get the usual "generic good-looking hero with inner demons" schtick.

[Tom]

i hope they make you decide if you want to kill your character's kid

Steam is taking forever to update ("download suspended"; the worse thing about steam) DA:O so I can't play it yet - arrrgh.

[Josefbugman]

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/dragon-age-2-gameplay/350241

Link to the first dragon age combat video (all be it a handheld version). My first impression? Basically that it handles a bit more like dynasty warriors and a bit less like "press x and wait till your abilities come back".

[KvP]

Everyone is positively shocked to learn that The Collector's Edition will include an extra "playable character". I'm not sure if that means we'll have a different PC model, or Bioware is just being careless with its terminology and they mean a CNPC ala Shale.

[Buttfranklin]

Not Bioware, but EA.

Bioware didn't pull that "extra content for 2 bucks" crap until they got bought by EA.

[Josefbugman]

That might be because such things didn't happen that much until after EA bought them? As is I don't mind too much, just gives me an extra reason to preorder it.

Also, you may not remember Isabella (she's the pirate captain you can sleep with to get the Duelist specialisation) but she's back with a brand new character model as Hawkes love interest.

[Johnny C]

i... i don't think you sleep with her to get the duelist thing, i think she duels you and that teaches you how to duel

[messeduplilkid]

If you sleep with her,  she'll "teach" you all about dueling.

Otherwise you catch her cheating, or have Leliana catch her.

[KvP]

DA2 gameplay. As expected, looks a lot like a fantasy Mass Effect 2, right down to pausing the action for powers.

[look out! Ninjas!]

I forget; are the console and PC versions still going to be different?

[Tom]

PC version will probably end up playing like the Witcher at this rate

[est]

I don't like it, and I don't like the people criticising the people complaining about it & calling them whiners.  It's supposed to be a fucking RPG, I hope the PC version actually looks more like one.

[look out! Ninjas!]

PC version will probably end up playing like the Witcher at this rate

That's OK, Witcher is awesome.